Nicklaus Sez:

[birdie_man]

Sez:

"Learn to hit it hard first. Learn control later."

Brian also just talked about something similar that Hogan I guess said.

I know you can mask a lot of things with good timing.

Discus.....

 

[pecky987]

thats some of the best advice u can give a young, talented player.

if they can hit it real far, then they have to do so many good things, and when you control it, they get even better!!!

ps sorry bout that shank thread

 

[Michael Jacobs]

trends

There is a correlation with when a golfer starts their golfing career with where they focus their concerns. When a golfer starts young, junior golf and so on their main priority over their golf career will most likely be distance.... on the other hand, golfers who begin later in life.... after the age of 40-50 their main focus will be directional control

Had a study that was conducted on this, checked my archives in my office and can't find it at the moment, i remember it pretty - well came across it about 10 years ago while i was doing all my research at Methodist University

the study showed an overwhelming statistical correlation with a golfers concerns on distance vs direction based on what age they took up golf. I use this psychology on a daily basis when I am servicing my patrons at my golf school

 

[thefuture37]

I use this psychology on a daily basis when I am servicing my patrons at my golf school

Are you able to manipulate the results? Such as by making a young player more control oriented or an older player more power oriented? If so, how?

The part about old people being more control oriented seems to be based on limitation. 40-50 year olds surely know that they most likely will never be able to hit it 300 yards, and therefore resign themselves to learning to do something they know they are physically capable of(direction control). Thats not to say that some older people can't hit it long, though.

 

[Jared Willerson]

If someone comes up with a sure-fire way to teach an adult to move a golf club dynamically, they will own golf...

I think the trick for adults would be the ability to tap in to the imitative function of the brain that tends to shut down when a person reaches 17-19.

 

[birdie_man]

Absolutely zero apology needed pecky. Thanks tho.

-Paul

 

[jeffy]

If someone comes up with a sure-fire way to teach an adult to move a golf club dynamically, they will own golf...

I think the trick for adults would be the ability to tap in to the imitative function of the brain that tends to shut down when a person reaches 17-19.

The problem is that the lower body shuts down during middle-age: sitting in offices and airplanes, etc. That takes a while to reinvigorate; in my case, more than two years of three-days-a-week workouts. Without that athleticism, forget about it...

 

[Michael Jacobs]

Are you able to manipulate the results? Such as by making a young player more control oriented or an older player more power oriented? If so, how?

The part about old people being more control oriented seems to be based on limitation. 40-50 year olds surely know that they most likely will never be able to hit it 300 yards, and therefore resign themselves to learning to do something they know they are physically capable of(direction control). Thats not to say that some older people can't hit it long, though.

Actually it goes a bit deeper, for example: lets say you have to 2 golfers coming to take a lesson.... both are 54 years old

One of the golfers took up the game at 40yrs and the other at 8yrs, their perspective of distance desire to control desire might be polar opposites.

Over the years and thousands of students I still remember that study and I think about it often, it is a small snippet that has helped my services...

 

[Burner]

Its all about consequences.

Young guys don't think about them and older guys have a fear of them.

When did you last see a young guy read the instruction manual and when did you see an older guy make a move without reading it first?

A young guy picks up a club and swings as hard as he can, whereas an older guy picks up a club and swings as hard as he dares for fear of injuring himself.

 

[cmartingolf]

I haven't met too many Jr. golfers that don't try and rip it after they have even the slightest command of the swing. Some can and some can't. Some kids can run fast and some can't.

I think a lot of it (for kids anyway) has to do with where they play their golf. If they are at a wide open course, aggression is great and is rewarded. If they are at a tree lined joint, aggression may have them shooting high scores and even if they want to let out the shaft, it's hard to do so.

Really long shots generally go straight. That takes a big, free move. A couple of crooked shots tighten up the move. Ask me, I know