NSA Beta - Hitter or swinger?

[pm4610]

I just finished watching the "Never Slice Again" (NSA) beta dvd and it is fantastic! Had I known about TGM and Brian years ago I might have had actually enjoyed golf NSA will definitely give me some new things to work on and/or be aware of. Since I'm a "hitter" and not a "swinger", I was wondering if EVERYTHING on NSA appplies to "hitters". I think a couple of segments applied to what "swingers" should be doing, but I'm not sure.
Also, I'm a little unclear about the "twistaway" (at the top of the swing), if I maintain a flat left wrist througout the swing, do I need or have to be concerned about the "twistaway"? If I do need to be concerned, can someone clarify what I'm supposed to do? It "appears" as if I'm supposed to "bow" my left wrist more than flat (I know - never "cupped" and "bowed" would be the oppposite in my "lingo").
Finally, the last 2 minutes of play in the dvd were really stop and go. Is that on all versions, just mine, or maybe it's my dvd player?

Thanks,

p

 

[Brian Manzella]

Never Slice Again's backswing is more hitter-ish, but the main reason for it is the twist-toward that almost all slicers do. Because they often don't have the club under the heel pad of the left hand, these golfers have to cock and BEND their left wrist on the backswing to get a 90° angle at the top.

The twist-away cures that. Plenty playing professionals have used a twistaway backswing. Arnold Palmer and Claude Harmon come to mind. The twistway "full-roll with a flat left wrist swivel" that Never Slice Again promotes has been employed by golfers like Lee Trevino and Moe Norman.

The Manzella-detracting, head-dead-still-teaching, TGM-gestapo out there, CAN'T STAND the success I have had with the twistaway.

A golfer from out west, just emailed me a week or so ago, saying how the twistaway taught to him by an Authorized Instructor who had learned it from me, worked almost instantly and for a good while.

Great right?

Nope.

Ya see, another Authorized Instructor who would like me to vanish from the golf universe—or move over to the dark side—told the cured golfer that "That Manzella Twistaway stuff is J-U-N-K. You need a 'fanning motion'."

It worked like a boat with a hole in the bottom—and his golf game went south fast.

He switched back to the 'twistaway' and hit it pure as the driven snow. He called his regular AI and said, "You were right, Manzella knows his stuff."

Happy ending for me, another hole in the boat for the theorists.

 

[pm4610]

Wow...amazing!
Just to clarify, I'm a "hitter" and I'm safe to work on anything in the Never Slice Again dvd, correct?

Thanks again!
p
PS: I'll get some help with the "twistaway" from my non-AI (for now), Jim0068!

 

[vandal]

I wish I could tell the difference between the Manzella twistaway and the right-forearm pickup or whatever it's called.

 

[denny.]

With your rt. hand only -------------Picture yourself waist high in coffee grains push your fingers straight down in the coffee and then wave the high sign to somebody to the rt.
THE TWIST AWAY

 

[vandal]

So, is there any forearm rotation with this?

 

[birdie_man]

"The twistway "full-roll with a flat left wrist swivel" that Never Slice Again promotes has been employed by golfers like Lee Trevino and Moe Norman."

I have never really got this Brian.

The Twistaway backswing is very closed.....for me, with the Twistaway backswing, if I do any "full rolling"....I hook the hell out of it.

 

[MizunoJoe]

Twistaway is a cure for a slicer, not necessarily a permanent Swing concept.

vandal - mega-roll of the left arm with the wedding ring facing the sky in the follow through.

 

[vandal]

Thanks, MJ. I don't think I need to worry about this. My main problem(s) are usually hooks and pulls.

 

[EdZ]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

"The twistway "full-roll with a flat left wrist swivel" that Never Slice Again promotes has been employed by golfers like Lee Trevino and Moe Norman."

I have never really got this Brian.

The Twistaway backswing is very closed.....for me, with the Twistaway backswing, if I do any "full rolling"....I hook the hell out of it.

Add extensor action to 'limit' the twist to a flat left wrist, not arched.

Right forearm pickup may also be helpful to you. "Support" the underside of the plane with your bent right wrist and your right forearm - the "tray" image.

Work on 10-2-B and smooth out your rpm's. Feel the heavy lag pressure driving downplane.

If you still pull, check your plane isn't shifted to the left.

 

[Brian Manzella]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

The Twistaway backswing is very closed.....for me, with the Twistaway backswing, if I do any "full rolling"....I hook the hell out of it.

That's becuase you have leakage!

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

The Twistaway backswing is very closed.....for me, with the Twistaway backswing, if I do any "full rolling"....I hook the hell out of it.

That's becuase you have leakage!

Exactly!

Before we left the range on sunday i performed a very slow, with great rythym, twistaway with full roll (wedding ring up) FADE that some people say is impossible.

I did it twice so no one could say i was "fudging it," Brian was proud.

 

[birdie_man]

quote:Originally posted by brianman

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

The Twistaway backswing is very closed.....for me, with the Twistaway backswing, if I do any "full rolling"....I hook the hell out of it.

That's becuase you have leakage!

Ack! The l-word!

I'm blushing.

....ya, I do find it hard....especially once the ball is forward in my stance.

It's been a while since I tried to conquer the Twistaway....I'm gonna have to go at er again.

Yarrrghrghg! (war-cry)

 

[birdie_man]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ
Add extensor action to 'limit' the twist to a flat left wrist, not arched.

Right forearm pickup may also be helpful to you. "Support" the underside of the plane with your bent right wrist and your right forearm - the "tray" image.

Work on 10-2-B and smooth out your rpm's. Feel the heavy lag pressure driving downplane.

If you still pull, check your plane isn't shifted to the left.

Thanks EdZ man. Good advice in general.

-Ex. Action for FLAT L. Wrist (not Arched)
-don't go underplane
-sustain the Lag

I AM talkin about with an Arched LWrist tho (Twistaway backswing).

....I know it's more of a training thing (Twistaway)....but I could never understand how ppl could say they were full rolling it with that backswing and hitting fades (FADES!!! huuuuuu-what?...).

I could see holding it off maybe and hitting fades.....

Anyhoo.....I'm gonna try it again for a bit....if it can be done I wanna do it.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

birde....

brian his the "full roll fade" for both Lynn and Ted.

I did it for brian at the orlando school and i did it for Archie Swivel as well.

IT IS POSSIBLE with a flat/arched wrist and a lot of axis tilt.