Orthodox Swing Models

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jeffgladchun

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Who are some good examples of a very orthodox swing? I would like to track down some youtubes of good players with orthodox swings.

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Jeff
 
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Kevin Shields

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Brandt Snedeker, John Merrick, Ryo Ishikawa, Gregory Havret (awesome), 2000 Tiger Woods, Ernie Els.... im sure theres a ton more
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Brandt Snedeker, John Merrick, Ryo Ishikawa, Gregory Havret (awesome), 2000 Tiger Woods, Ernie Els.... im sure theres a ton more
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I was extremely impressed with Havret's swing too! At the start of the last round I said to myself this guy has a real shot at winning this with that swing.
 
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Orthodox Swing Models
Who are some good examples of a very orthodox swing?
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From the instructors point of view,

I know the backswing IS important but..

Or should we just focus a little more on the part of the swing from the last vertical to the when the club goes towards 3rd base (swivel or not) area?

Matt
 
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Orthodox Golf Swings

Sam Snead (at any point), Jack Nicklaus (pre-'68, post '71), Tiger Woods (2000). Ben Hogan (pre & post wreck), Byron Nelson, Tom Watson (post 1992), Jimmy Demaret, Gene Littler, Henry Picard, Tommy Armour, Johnny Miller (1973-1975), Jim Barnes, Hale Irwin, Davis Love III, Bill Mehlhorn, Greg Norman (pre Butch), Nick Price (1990's), Julius Boros, Jack Burke Jr.,
Tommy Bolt.

There are others...but this is a great Historical start.

Current....

Luke Donald, Rory McIlroy, Hunter Mahan, Alvaro Quiros, Francesco Molinari, Ryo Ishikawa, David Toms ;)
 
Richie3Jack

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Can somebody give us a definition of an 'orthodox swing model?' I get that somebody like Trevino would be 'unorthodox', but I guess I don't know what can be described as 'orthodox' and why somebody like Hogan wouldn't be considered orthodox while Snead would be considered orthodox.






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rogerdodger

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Does the swing look like a golfer? I think that is the standard I would apply. We all see swings that are pleasing to the eye and likely consider them orthodox. Plane shifts, pivot, grip all factor in the equation. I think both Hogan and Snead are orthodox, Furyk, Darcy, Gay Brewer, Ed Furgol are unorthodox. Trevino I would argue is closer to orthodox than the names listed above.
 
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Richie3Jack said:
Can somebody give us a definition of an 'orthodox swing model?' I get that somebody like Trevino would be 'unorthodox', but I guess I don't know what can be described as 'orthodox' and why somebody like Hogan wouldn't be considered orthodox while Snead would be considered orthodox.






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Orthodox, or lacking the need for compensatory moves. Hogan had a few of those, Snead didnt really. Its not that Hogan is unorthodox by any stretch, but its no wonder nobody could replicate his swing or use his equipment.
 
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I'm guessing that you could break it down to upright orthodox and flatter orthodox and Faldo would be somewhere in the middle orthodox. I think Faldo's swing was as good as it gets.
 
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No one has ever been more orthodox than 1988-1992 Nick Faldo.
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I couldn't disagree more. When I think of Nick Faldo, I think of artificial loading mixed with a complete lack of dynamism. Orthodox to me is to do with ideal mechanics and Faldo definitely does not use ideal mechanics. There are many guys on tour that make Faldo (even when he was at his best) look average in terms of ballstriking.
 
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There are many guys on tour that make Faldo (even when he was at his best) look average in terms of ballstriking.
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Such as? he might lack power now but at his prime he was longer than Jeff Sluman and he was very precise. Watch the 1992 World Matchplay final where he consistently hit it past Sluman.
 
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aaron_lohan said:
Such as?
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Just about everyone. In 1992, the tour was full of fat, non athletic individuals, many of them smokers, most of which looked like they would have a heart attack at any moment.

he might lack power now but at his prime he was longer than Jeff Sluman and he was very precise. Watch the 1992 World Matchplay final where he consistently hit it past Sluman.
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Anyone would be precise just tapping the ball out there around the 250 mark. Hitting it past Sluman a few times isn't exactly a monumental achievement that requires immense power to a degree that it will cement an immortal legacy in long driving ability.
 
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birly-shirly

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Deadly_Scope said:
Just about everyone. In 1992, the tour was full of fat, non athletic individuals, many of them smokers, most of which looked like they would have a heart attack at any moment.

Anyone would be precise just tapping the ball out there around the 250 mark. Hitting it past Sluman a few times isn't exactly a monumental achievement that requires immense power to a degree that it will cement an immortal legacy in long driving ability.
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Yup. Norman, Price, Woosnam, Langer, Couples, Olazabal, Love...think most of these guys might induce a heart attack if they came after you.

You're right though, Faldo's immortal legacy doesn't rest on long driving... though he was long enough to wax the field.
 
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