PP3 still relevant

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bcoak

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have an interesting pic of Lucas Glover at impact with a strong pp3. Can't seem to post it though. Is pp3 still relevant in the new world?
 
Kevin -

Would someone with lower hands benefit more with a "stronger" left hand grip (right thumb on the right side of the shaft) and focusing on PP3 when keeping the hands lower through the swing?

My hands get too high and I feel like that allows me to close the face down quicker with higher hands and a weaker grip (and generate a lot of power from the No. 3 accumulator).
 

Kevin Shields

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Yes, and a knuckles up "angled hinging" feel with little shaft twisting and squarer clubface. The focus on pp3 would be across the shaft and not using it to twist the face.

Im a touch confused. How do higher hands give you more #3 acc power when high hands eliminates the angle in the left arm and wrist?
 
I don't believe the higher hands give me more #3, rather, the high hands are a result of using the #3 (left arm rotating) early because this feels powerful having my forearms roll over each other. Much harder to roll my forearms over each other with lower hands. My post was confusing after looking at it from your perspective.

I feel more of a "pushing" action with the PP3 when my hands are lower.
 
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Brian Manzella

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I rarely ever talk about right forefinger monitoring, hardly ever talk about right forefinger aiming, and NEVER EVER call it that to a newbie.
 
Brian -

What about high hands vs. low hands and the effect upon the rate of face closure? I was getting some negative numbers with my face angle today on Trackman. Lowering my hands made it harder for me to close the face and I felt like pushing with PP3 across the shaft instead of rolling my forearms over each other.
 

bcoak

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Here is the pic
pp3y.jpg
 

Brian Manzella

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Lowering your hands will ALWAYS make closing the left arm flying wedge harder.

I just think that THINKING ABOUT #3 isn't for most folks.
 
Yes, and a knuckles up "angled hinging" feel with little shaft twisting and squarer clubface. The focus on pp3 would be across the shaft and not using it to twist the face.

Im a touch confused. How do higher hands give you more #3 acc power when high hands eliminates the angle in the left arm and wrist?

So higher hands through the impact area makes it easier to flip? Do lower hands facilitate forward lean?
 
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Kevin Shields

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Not that im aware of for either. Maybe the reverse. However, higher hands could give you more of a REASON to flip, not make it easier. And lower hands would be easier to flip, but you might not need to.
 
Never appreciated it much, but one of my favourite tips now. As in Ben Hogan's "Coleman Beach Estate" footage. (at the end)

Not something I think about much in executing a given shot. But a guideline of sorts, that I like to go back to.

"Right forefinger behind the shaft. (and "the hit")"

"Not too much down (at the ground) or around the shaft."
 
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