Q re Twist away

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Mbaker1979

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I have been playing around with the "twist away" - superb drill Brian by the way.
Now it has been working ok with my current grip. Shot 82 first time out with it but had a big draw/hook the first 9 holes. The hook made me want to search the forum for an answer and found this -http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7367
After reviewing it I played around with grips in the mirror and it seems my grip is too strong and looks like I need to weaken it to get the club face and flat left wrist to match up however when I do the other check where you bend your right wrist straight back the club rolls open unless I hold the club at or below waist level or bow my left wrist......what have I mis-read re this/done wrong???? Is my right hand grip wrong???
 
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Brian Manzella

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Mbaker1979 said:
I have been playing around with the "twist away" - superb drill Brian by the way.
Now it has been working ok with my current grip. Shot 82 first time out with it but had a big draw/hook the first 9 holes. The hook made me want to search the forum for an answer and found this -http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7367
After reviewing it I played around with grips in the mirror and it seems my grip is too strong and looks like I need to weaken it to get the club face and flat left wrist to match up however when I do the other check where you bend your right wrist straight back the club rolls open unless I hold the club at or below waist level or bow my left wrist......what have I mis-read re this/done wrong???? Is my right hand grip wrong???
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Sounds like your Right Hand grip is turned too far to the left (too "weak").
 
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Mbaker1979

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Brian, in the impact picture your left hand looks like it is in a strong position (min 3 knuckles) is that where I am going wrong with my grip? But with a strong left hand grip the flat left wrist and clubface can't be parallel???


Can you sort my confusion?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Mbaker1979 said:
Brian, in the impact picture your left hand looks like it is in a strong position (min 3 knuckles) is that where I am going wrong with my grip? But with a strong left hand grip the flat left wrist and clubface can't be parallel???


Can you sort my confusion?
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The #1 issue i see with people who use the twistaway concept WITHOUT taking a lesson from a Brian Manzella Academy instructor is they all tend to use a grip that is too strong, or they might use the right grip at first but then let it get stronger and stronger and the hooks come.

You have to use a very neutral grip exactly how Brian describes for this type of pattern to work correctly. Or you can use a slightly stronger grip but you will have to "twist less" and that goes against the whole idea of the pattern; meaning to teach the student clubface rotation.
 
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Mbaker1979

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I would concur Jim. In order to fix the hook I had I limited the rotation to square the face up. However I think long term/going forward a weaker grip would be the answer as a more reliable method as I feel I would always be inclined to the odd over rotation.
 
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conkanen

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Brian or Jim...

So is a weak Left hand grip and a strong right hand grip the optimal grip for employing the twistaway? I am a little confused. I had very good success with the twistaway during my last range session and was also hooking a few of them from time to time.
 
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Better yet....

watch NSA 2.0. I quit slicing (all but the surprise one from time to time) a while ago so I haven't watched NSA in some time.

I watched it last night based on Brian's suggestion regarding the right hand grip.

All I can say is WOW! I forgot how much stuff was in the video. It cleared up the grip question and brought back to mind several things I needed to be reminded of.

Can't wait to get out to the range!
 
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conkanen

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I too watched watched NSA 2.0 last week for the first time in a while. I followed it up with my best range session by far this year. Hopefully I can take it to the golf course for my annual guys golf getaway this weekend. As per my question, I will have to re-watch the section on grip.

NSA is ridiculously packed with great stuff. It is a complete guide imo.
 
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