I was doing a Manzella drill with my driver whereby I teed the ball a few inches in front of my front foot (towards the target). From this ball position I was trying to exaggerate a forward hand position at impact. The problem is I was able to hit the ball MUCH more solidly and further from this forward ball position. I could not repeat this nearly as well from the "normal" ball position. I don't know if the further forward ball position let my hips clear. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Question about flat left wrist
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Maybe title is misleading - sorry
The point was I was able to "feel" like I had a flat left wrist at impact with the ball further in front. I was not able to do this when the ball was in my "normal" position. In the normal position, I felt like I had to flip my wrists or else the ball would shoot out to the right.
The point was I was able to "feel" like I had a flat left wrist at impact with the ball further in front. I was not able to do this when the ball was in my "normal" position. In the normal position, I felt like I had to flip my wrists or else the ball would shoot out to the right.
I find that if I do not finish the pivot through impact that I feel like I have to flip my hands too, otherwise I hit a push. With the ball positioned farther forward, it allows for the pivot to progress more.
With the ball in the normal position try to really drive the left hip back and this should bring the clubhead into proper impact.
With the ball in the normal position try to really drive the left hip back and this should bring the clubhead into proper impact.
Perhaps your "normal" ball position is simply too far back? I feel like the majority of people play the ball too far back as it is.
I'm not an instructor though, so that's just my observation.
When you feel like it's too far forward, you might just simply be putting the ball in the correct position at address.
I'm not an instructor though, so that's just my observation.
When you feel like it's too far forward, you might just simply be putting the ball in the correct position at address.
Cliff,
With the ball that far forward, you are forced to keep your wrist flat, otherwise you would have trouble contacting the ball properly (usually the club would need to start travelling upwards at that point)...,,so if your wrist had not stayed flat you would probably have thinned it or whiffed it...
Subconciously your body would have known this...
Chris Sturgess
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Yeah, or hit it way left. Since he wasn't worried about hitting it right anymore with the forward ball postion giving him plenty of time to come around on it, there was no need for flipping.
curtisj76
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Brian Manzella
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Video Answer Coming....
Cliff.
I am doing a Video Answer for this very good question.
Most people have the ball way too far back, and you may have "found your spot" a bit more forward.
Most better players—such as yourself—will aim their hands further forward, have more trigger delay, hip travel, elbow travel and possible better kinetic chain snap, all when they just have the ball nice an forward.
Like Jack, Johhny, Ben, Michael, and Tom.
Cliff.
I am doing a Video Answer for this very good question.
Most people have the ball way too far back, and you may have "found your spot" a bit more forward.
Most better players—such as yourself—will aim their hands further forward, have more trigger delay, hip travel, elbow travel and possible better kinetic chain snap, all when they just have the ball nice an forward.
Like Jack, Johhny, Ben, Michael, and Tom.
Chris Sturgess
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Chris, curtis....
re-read the firrst post again.....Cliff said, "I teed the ball a few inches in front of my front foot (towards the target)..."
What? I am aware of this. I was saying that since the ball is more forward in his stance he has more time to get the clubface square so therefore he doesn't feel the need to flip his wrists like he did before with it back in his stance and was worried about the ball going right.
curtisj76
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Chris, curtis....
re-read the firrst post again.....Cliff said, "I teed the ball a few inches in front of my front foot (towards the target)..."
Boy you are quick. The question was where he's placing the ball in the "normal" position as he mentioned.
Thanks but no need to re-read
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Apologies Chris...I meant should have been addressing Holeout, ref his statement on correct ball position...or how many players do you know that address the ball forward of their left foot?...
Curtis, you did not edit the post you quoted, so I assumed you were referring to the last line of...
Apologies Chris...I meant should have been addressing Holeout, ref his statement on correct ball position...or how many players do you know that address the ball forward of their left foot?...
Curtis, you did not edit the post you quoted, so I assumed you were referring to the last line of...
Just because it FEELS like it's a few inches forward of his left foot doesn't mean it actually IS.
And I realize that the argument is that you could SEE where the ball position is. Doesn't matter. Ever moved the ball to someone's left in their stance (or right for that matter) a couple of inches? Most of them will tell you it looks like you moved it a FOOT.
And I realize that the argument is that you could SEE where the ball position is. Doesn't matter. Ever moved the ball to someone's left in their stance (or right for that matter) a couple of inches? Most of them will tell you it looks like you moved it a FOOT.
birdie_man
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Brian Manz said:
I know I mostly hit it better with it forward.....most shots I find myself puttin it up there.
mgranato
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I discovered this very thing a couple weeks ago on the range as I worked on a flat left wrist. I teed the ball opposite the tip of my lead shoe - I was able to pound some very solid 10 yard fades (my favorite ball flight). Since then, I've played that ball position when I need a long one in the fairway - but like an idiot, go back to the more rearward ball position for my normal drives. Although I haven't hit a single bad one yet with it up front, I guess I don't quite trust it enough to make it permanent - like it's a novelty or temporary range type "trick" that will lead to a breakdown somewhere else. I'm glad Brian chimed in to validate this accident because I really love the impact and ball flight I'm getting with this ball position.
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