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I played in a tournament yesterday and one of the members in my foursome was the pro from the club where we played. At the turn he told me that he noticed on my better drives and long iron shots my right elbow was even with my left elbow at the top of my backswing. On shots where I pushed it right or hooked too much the right elbow was below the left. Is there any TGM logic or teaching behind this insight? I can't say I have ever focused on my elbows in my swing but he certainly got me thinking....thanks.
 
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That's an old trick to get you focused on something that doesn't do anything for you but take your mind off your usual thoughts.
Never listen to anyone's advice or comments during a round.

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I played in a tournament yesterday and one of the members in my foursome was the pro from the club where we played. At the turn he told me that he noticed on my better drives and long iron shots my right elbow was even with my left elbow at the top of my backswing. On shots where I pushed it right or hooked too much the right elbow was below the left. Is there any TGM logic or teaching behind this insight? I can't say I have ever focused on my elbows in my swing but he certainly got me thinking....thanks.
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flapro said:
That's an old trick to get you focused on something that doesn't do anything for you but take your mind off your usual thoughts.
Never listen to anyone's advice or comments during a round.
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I don't think he was trying to take my mind off my usual thoughts. It was the only advice he gave to me. My other two buddies are hackers and he spent a lot of time with them. As I said, I have never thought about the position of my elbows before but I wonder if it is a point of consideration in the TGM world or in Brian's teaching...
 
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echoes77 said:
I played in a tournament yesterday and one of the members in my foursome was the pro from the club where we played. At the turn he told me that he noticed on my better drives and long iron shots my right elbow was even with my left elbow at the top of my backswing. On shots where I pushed it right or hooked too much the right elbow was below the left. Is there any TGM logic or teaching behind this insight? I can't say I have ever focused on my elbows in my swing but he certainly got me thinking....thanks.
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I've seen this tip somewhere, that at the top of the backswing you are supposed to be able to sit a club through your elbows, and it should be level with the ground. It also resembles the only swing advice I got on one of those week long golf schools.
 
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I have read a few tips as well, regarding level elbows at the top of the backswing.
Then I'll thumb through the book, 'The Golf Swing', the one with all the sequential photos of dozens of tour pros. For every pro with level elbows, there's usually one with uneven elbows too.
 
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echoes77 said:
I played in a tournament yesterday and one of the members in my foursome was the pro from the club where we played. At the turn he told me that he noticed on my better drives and long iron shots my right elbow was even with my left elbow at the top of my backswing. On shots where I pushed it right or hooked too much the right elbow was below the left. Is there any TGM logic or teaching behind this insight? I can't say I have ever focused on my elbows in my swing but he certainly got me thinking....thanks.
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Don't worry about the elbows. Just practice tracing the plane line.
 
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Well....

I care a GREAT DEAL ABOUT ARM AND HAND POSITIONING at the top of the swing.

Many people need the elbow more down, even more need it more out.

When it is DOWN, it is often UNDER. When it is OUT, it is often more level.

I'd have to see your swing, but trust me, I'd try it both ways.

As far those who think it doesn't matter:

How you tie your shoes matters. :D ;)
 
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Brian Manzella said:
I care a GREAT DEAL ABOUT ARM AND HAND POSITIONING at the top of the swing.

Many people need the elbow more down, even more need it more out.

When it is DOWN, it is often UNDER. When it is OUT, it is often more level.

I'd have to see your swing, but trust me, I'd try it both ways.

As far those who think it doesn't matter:

How you tie your shoes matters. :D ;)
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Brian:

I don't have the technology to post my swing but I am going to the range today and will focus on the position of my elbows and report back.
 
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echoes77 said:
Brian:

I don't have the technology to post my swing but I am going to the range today and will focus on the position of my elbows and report back.
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I hit a large bucket of balls last night. I had a buddy who is a decent golfer monitor my elbows. The consensus was that when my elbows were even or parallel at the top of the swing I tended to push the ball to the right. I wouldn't call it a fade but a driver shot that went anywhere from 10-20 yards right of the intended target. If my right elbow was lower than my left I could hit it straight or hit a few draws. It is hard to concentrate on elbow position but I think when my elbows were parallel my left wrist was not flat or as flat as I like it. I use to fight a terrible slice until I worked on keeping a flat left wrist. I am not sure what the pro I played with on Monday saw in my elbows but on the range last night I hit better drives and long irons when the right elbow was below the left...
 
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echoes77 said:
I hit a large bucket of balls last night. I had a buddy who is a decent golfer monitor my elbows. The consensus was that when my elbows were even or parallel at the top of the swing I tended to push the ball to the right. I wouldn't call it a fade but a driver shot that went anywhere from 10-20 yards right of the intended target. If my right elbow was lower than my left I could hit it straight or hit a few draws. It is hard to concentrate on elbow position but I think when my elbows were parallel my left wrist was not flat or as flat as I like it. I use to fight a terrible slice until I worked on keeping a flat left wrist. I am not sure what the pro I played with on Monday saw in my elbows but on the range last night I hit better drives and long irons when the right elbow was below the left...
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Brian: I couldn't find much on elbows in the search engine. Maybe there is a video in the future on this issue???
 
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Brian Manzella

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In general....

A "Twistaway" will produce a DOWN Right Elbow. A DOWN Right Elbow makes it easier to achieve a "Pitch Basic" Elbow condition, and also LOADS the accumulators a bit less, as they are more assembled Right Elnow Down.

I would NEVER go wide and high (right Elbow) with a slicer, unless I really had to for extra motion.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
A "Twistaway" will produce a DOWN Right Elbow. A DOWN Right Elbow makes it easier to achieve a "Pitch Basic" Elbow condition, and also LOADS the accumulators a bit less, as they are more assembled Right Elnow Down.

I would NEVER go wide and high (right Elbow) with a slicer, unless I really had to for extra motion.
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How would it adversely affect a slicer? Does that mean that a wide and high position would help a person who is a hooker?
 
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johngolf33

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Had to get away from Twist Away because I got a bad case of the hooks. I went to a Ben Doyle take away ( water bottle label up ) and sharp hip turn. I quit hooking immediately. Does this sound like a clubface problem?
 
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