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What type of golfers benefit from a wide takeaway?

How long should the clubface remain square on the takeaway?

Should you actively try to turn/swivel your wrists on the takeaway?

Is it better to have lower or higher hands at the top of the backswing?

Is it good advice to keep your right elbow close to your body?
 
wider arc? But at some point it the right arm has to bend, or you will hit your drive like my friend.

Myfriend: YAh, i bombed a 200 yard drive yesterday.
 
wider arc? But at some point it the right arm has to bend, or you will hit your drive like my friend.

Myfriend: YAh, i bombed a 200 yard drive yesterday.

you probably could have kept your post to yourself Jen.

is there such a thing as TOO much extensor action?
 

Kevin Shields

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What type of golfers benefit from a wide takeaway?

How long should the clubface remain square on the takeaway?

Should you actively try to turn/swivel your wrists on the takeaway?

Is it better to have lower or higher hands at the top of the backswing?

Is it good advice to keep your right elbow close to your body?

Cool questions. Wouldnt it be dependent on each individual, though? Its difficult to generalize on the golf swing. Id be looking forward to BM's response, however.
 

Brian Manzella

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What type of golfers benefit from a wide, long right arm, takeaway?

In general, the type that would benefit would be someone who needs a more distinct change-of-direction.

Conversely, folks who have a dramatic change-of-direction—or maybe even too much—are better off setting early.

For instance Jack Nicklaus, who was thick in the chest, and burned at lot of energy and clubhead feel stretching soo hard tp get as turn and as up and in in his backswing, benefitted greatly from wide to narrow.

Johnny Miller, Mike Finney, etc., natural big down-setters, gained control over setting early.

But, if you NEED it, and you can handle it, you can do both.

Ala, Sergio Garcia.

I never forget the first time I first taught Mike Finney how to make a Nicklaus-type move, just as an experiment.

Instead of his normal early set, he snap-loaded and extra float leaded.

I don't know why I let him use my Ping Eye 2 Beryllium Copper 6-iron for this trial. But I did.

Michael hit it about 210 yards and my shaft broke off and the head went 50 yards.

Whoa!

How long should the clubface remain square on the takeaway? Should you actively try to turn/swivel your wrists on the takeaway?

For almost every pattern, there should be no "on purpose" turning open (or holding closed) of the clubface, independent of arm swing and shoulder turn.

But, there is a type of golf that it works well for. That golfer has PLENTY of natural clubface closing on the downswing. Mike Finney, and currently Gary Gardner.

It is part of my "Eliminate Left" pattern.

Is it better to have lower or higher hands at the top of the backswing?

All things being equal, higher is better.

But again, it depends on the pattern.

Never Hook Again - High Hands
Soft Fade Pattern - Pretty Low
Eliminate Left - In between the above two
Do It Right - In between Soft Fade and Eliminate Left
Soft Draw - Slightly Higher than Do it Right
Never Slice Again - A little Less high


Is it good advice to keep your right elbow close to your body?[/QUOTE]

On the backswing, totally worse than a waste of time.

On the downswing, if done by the hands, and with pitch elbow, it is fine.

But, in certain patterns, especially with punch elbow, death move.
 
"Eliminate Left - In between the above two"

Is this what kind of swing Butch Harmon teaches?

He likes between the shoulder plane and the elbow plane.
 
you probably could have kept your post to yourself Jen.

is there such a thing as TOO much extensor action?

brian mentioned it clearly, you need right arm bend at some point. don't need to attack people on the forum, be nice to your fellow forumer.

thanks.

warm regards.
 
I love this forum

Thanks for these great answers Brian. No BS, distilled through years of experience and studying. The reason I’m asking these questions is because I’ve been messing around with different patterns so much that I can’t remember what I used to do naturally without thinking about it. I need to go back to square 1. Sigh.
 
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For almost every pattern, there should be no "on purpose" turning open (or holding closed) of the clubface, independent of arm swing and shoulder turn.
What type of golfer would benefit from "take the club back with your shoulders/pivot as one unit", and what type of golfer would benefit from "take the club back with your arms, and let your arms turn your shoulder"?


One more question, should grip pressure be same from driver to wedge?

One more question...this is a harder one...is it possible to have a hand path that goes "back in" (i.e. reaches its low point) much sooner than when the clubhead goes back in (i.e. when the clubhead reaches its low point). If so, what factors contribute to this?
 
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two different pivots...which one?

Brian, lots of questions...one more ;):

Which pivot do you prefer?

leospivot.jpg
 

Brian Manzella

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Oh, it looks good on you though — Big Al

Brian, lots of questions...one more ;):

Which pivot do you prefer?

leospivot.jpg

I like the left one for straight shots and fades, and the right one for draws.

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Brian which Patterns?

On the downswing, if done by the hands, and with pitch elbow, it is fine.

But, in certain patterns, especially with punch elbow, death move.[/QUOTE]

Hi Brian-
I've never seen you use the "death move" term before. Could you explain which patterns and why?

Thanks
 
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