Quick fix for those that swing too far to the right

[Jim Kobylinski]

If you are too lazy to fix it i have the fix for you:

-setup square
-then aim right
-drop right foot back
-play an OTT Snead Style Pull

Worked pretty good for me this evening

 

[dcg1952]

Just curious---did you alter your ball postion at all???

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

nope

 

[Ricky1990]

This is my only problem in my swing now ive corrected every other major flaw, swinging to far to the right which causes about a 15 yard draw with long clubs and 10 yard draw with short clubs which lately I have just been working with what ive got.

Ill try this on the range, but with lots of competitions comign up I think ill just keep letting my draw do its thing ! Ill tell you how it goes.

 

[dcg1952]

Thanks Jim. I'll give it a shot at the range tonight as I think (like Ricky1990) that I suffer from this as well. Dave

 

[dcg1952]

Well, gave it a shot tonight----walked 9 holes and then hit the range. (I know, should have hit the range 1st, but ran into 3 friends and walked the back 9 as soon as I pulled the clubs out of the car.) Actually hit the ball quite well this way---had 1 shot I blocked right and another I pulled real hard to the left, but most of them were solidly hit with a slight draw---and longer than my usual distance with each club. Range work consisted of experimenting with just how much to pull back my right foot, but this may be worth a trial for a while. Sure was fun to hit a draw. Any other tips about this swing you can share Jim?? Just curious---how far right did Snead aim??

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Well, gave it a shot tonight----walked 9 holes and then hit the range. (I know, should have hit the range 1st, but ran into 3 friends and walked the back 9 as soon as I pulled the clubs out of the car.) Actually hit the ball quite well this way---had 1 shot I blocked right and another I pulled real hard to the left, but most of them were solidly hit with a slight draw---and longer than my usual distance with each club. Range work consisted of experimenting with just how much to pull back my right foot, but this may be worth a trial for a while. Sure was fun to hit a draw. Any other tips about this swing you can share Jim?? Just curious---how far right did Snead aim??

The reason this works so well is because instead of fixing "too far to the right" to "just the right amount to the right" you simply ELIMINATE the right and come back OTT. However because you sucked the club so inside to begin with when you come OTT you still end up in a really nice impact position but because you are "aimed right" you are obviously pulling it back to the target.

You will have to experiment with ball position and how far right to aim. Generally speaking the farther to the right you aim the more you'll pull or draw the ball.

 

[blehnhard]

"pull' is a relative term. Snead "pulled" in relation to his body lines, but to Snead if it went were his "target" was, he hit in "straight".

I remember a Snead quote from a while back. Someone commented to Sam that he was lined up to the right. Sam said it might be to the right for that person, but it was on target for him.

Also, OTT is relative too. He may have been OTT to his body line, but if he is set up "closed, closed" his mental plane line is to the left of his body line. Snead worked his right shoulder down that plane line - so was it really OTT?

Bruce

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

It was still an OTT move but because of his body aim and his position that OTT move actually put in "on plane." But because he was setup closed/closed it went left of his relative body aim.

Brian demonstrates a perfect example of this swing in his latest free video in respone to darby's question about swinging this way.

 

[Burner]

blehnhard and Jim,

Time out!

The ball has no idea as to the golfers body's alignment prior to impact and only reacts to the forces generated by the clubhead arc of motion and clubface position at separation.

I've seen guys looking to the right whilst hitting to the left with both open and closed stances, yet they hit straight shots at their pre-ordained targets. They were good and knew what they were doing.

OTT is, and always should be (?), relative to the clubhead angle of approach NOT just the body's orientation at set up.

Discuss?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

blehnhard and Jim,


OTT is, and always should be (?), relative to the clubhead angle of approach NOT just the body's orientation at set up.

Discuss?

Don't you think i know this?

If you aim right and swing on a plane that would be the approach angle of a square setup, you are still swinging OTT. You have simply "adjusted your machine" so that your OTT move puts you in a proper impact position.

 

[Burner]

Don't you think i know this?

If you aim right and swing on a plane that would be the approach angle of a square setup, you are still swinging OTT. You have simply "adjusted your machine" so that your OTT move puts you in a proper impact position.

I repeat. The ball has no idea as to where you are standing in relation to it or in which direction you are aiming to hit it.

OTT only occurs if you hit the ball's outside aft quadrant - no matter which angle you are coming at it from, or whatever direction you are aiming it; and they might even be the geometrically correct ones.

In short, you can set up, swing and aim correctly but still go OTT into the ball - or vice versa.

 

[Bigwill]

I always thought that "over the top" was in reference to the clubhead/shaft movement, particularly referencing the relationship of the backswing to the downswing. In that situation, I suppose you could go over the top and still contact the inside quadrant. I guess it all depends on how you define OTT.

 

[jimmydean]

aiming right

jim,

exactly what do you mean by aiming right? would it be equivalent to turning the left shoulder clockwise?

 

[self-mastery]

Why do I hit the ball higher with this procedure??? I use to be a low ball drawer, but every since I've started trying to model snead my flight is higher...

 

[Bigwill]

If you haven't changed your ball position as you aimed your body more right, closing your body to the target line effectively moves the ball up in your stance, if I'm not mistaken.