Range Mats affect on Golf Swing

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bray

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Brian and Forum,

In your own opinion...

What affect does a range mat have on the layback and closing of the clubface???

Also what affect does artificial turf have on a player's ability to control low point??

Thanks in advance for your response.


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Jim Kobylinski

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IMO mats will either injure you or make u learn how to add more loft through impact to "lessen" the shock of the impact. Use them SPARRINGLY
 
2mongoose

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For people who have a clue I think these are the closest thing we have to a "truth serum." Pretty easy to tell if you've cheated at impact.

Regarding your specific questions, I can see the hard surface preventing the clubface from closing post impact.

I also don't think low point exists on the mats.
 
mjstrong

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Intriguing...

Brian Manzella said:
I'll video myself hittng a 6-iron off the turf and off the mat.

The results will surprise many.
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Does the type of mat make a difference? Would a bare bones, old school mat be significantly different than one of the new-fangled 'more realistic' mats out there?
 
cmartingolf

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Most the the new mats today are pretty good. I've never tried VJ's. We're off mats during the winter in Oregon. I don't mind hitting off of them and I don't think it messes with low point any significant amount. Sure there is some rebound (I look forward to BManz high speed film), but they seem to be fine for me.

With flippers, I do see a lot of drop kicks that get decent results. Normally, they would lay the sod over the ball.

Keep in mind, 40 to 50 balls and I'm cashed whether I'm on turf or mats.
 
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benstone

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As hitting off turf in the UK was rarely an option, I didn't have much choice but to hit off mats at the range, so I have used several different mats. The best I have come across are the TrueStrike mats, which have gel underneath the hitting area allowing you to hit down as if you were hitting from turf. They are much better than traditional mats at preventing injuries as well. I liked them so much I became the Australian distributor for them :cool: .
 
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hcw

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"so what's the surprise result?"

after seeing this:

Brian Manzella said:
This is the video @1000frames per second, of contact of a middle handicap player who doesn't flip.

No...not BManz :D<!-- begin embedded QuickTime file... -->
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my guess is that the ball is long gone before you hit either mat or turf (assuming you hit it correctly, ie ball first)
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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hcw said:
after seeing this:



my guess is that the ball is long gone before you hit either mat or turf (assuming you hit it correctly, ie ball first)
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U r correct; however that doesn't mean your BRAIN isn't PREPARING or doing something DIFFERENT to help avoid the "shock" of impact.

As long as you have a well padded mat i would say it' fine; however most of the mats local to me are not and i in fact developed a shoulder injury from them. Once i limited my mat involvement and hit 90% off the grass off the trouble went away.
 
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hcw

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agreed...

Jim Kobylinski said:
U r correct; however that doesn't mean your BRAIN isn't PREPARING or doing something DIFFERENT to help avoid the "shock" of impact.

As long as you have a well padded mat i would say it' fine; however most of the mats local to me are not and i in fact developed a shoulder injury from them. Once i limited my mat involvement and hit 90% off the grass off the trouble went away.
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...add the fact that you can hit it "fat" on a mat and still get a fairly reasonable ball flight = turf is >> better (if not always an option)...
 
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braveheart

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Mats are harmful to your swing and to your body. They should only be used sparingly, otherwise you may end up with some shoulder and elbow issues. You will also get a false sense of how well you are hitting the ball due to bounce. Especially, if your swing is not that finely tuned and your swing bottom is not consistently forward enough. At least that is what has been my experience. One winter, my enthusiasm got the best of me and I developed a sore left elbow after hitting ball after ball off of indoor range mats. I have improved a little bit, I am still a high handicapper but smarter in that I only will hit maybe 50 balls maximum.
 
birdie_man

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Agreed with Jim and Braveheart. (love that movie BTW)

My shoulders and neck still get sore. (watch your wrists and elbows too)

Most of those mats are trouble.

Either you hit off a flier lie all the time (can mask a flip) or you destroy your body.
 
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thefuture37

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heres the mat solution. if you have no other option, just hit drivers off the mat teed up and leave your iron practice for another day.
 
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