Relationship Between Strength & Tumbling?
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rogerdodger
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Only from personal experience I would say heavier clubs make it easier to tumble. I lose the feel of the clubhead with lighter clubs and cannot feel it during the downswing. I underrotate the sweetspot and really need the feel of it turning in the downswing, light clubs tend to mask that. That is my opinion.
rogerdodger
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Perhaps it does, if I cannot sense the clubhead due to the club being too light, I have little to no chance of turning the sweetspot to the ball. Brian taught me to put the entire club on the movie screen, wedding ring up move in the follow-thru. I cannot perform this consistently with too light a club. I understand the theory behind lighter clubs and clubhead speed. I think mass is as important. You know what has not gotten lighter? Sledgehammers. At fifty miles an hour which would you rather get hit by, a mini or a mack truck?
Mack truck for sure. I might survive the mini collision
I find the same thing with light clubs. Less/no tumble. I just leave the clubhead out behind me with an open face.
curtisj76
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Ok, check this pdf that I just found. It's from a long-time club builder and he shows that a club that is too heavy tends to be swung too far to the inside. I could be wrong but isn't reverse tumbling getting under the sweetspot and swinging too far to the right?
http://www.agcpgolf.com/Fitting_with_Weight_and_Length_Poster_11_10.pdf
http://www.agcpgolf.com/Fitting_with_Weight_and_Length_Poster_11_10.pdf
I have burned a couple of brain cells thinking about this. I find it easier to tumble short irons by virtue of the overall mass. I also have not problem tumbling a relatively light driver by virtue of the lever being longer. So lighter clubs with longer levers seem to work ok, as do heavier clubs with shorter shafts. Make sense?
I actually have a new student who has heavy headed Dunlop clubs and she has serious trouble tumbling and rotating the sweetspot left on the downswing, however one lesson I gave her a lighter club and she was able to do it better. Just one example that worked for her, could be different for someone else and I have no idea of what the science of the matter should indicate....
Michael Jacobs
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Scenario:
Weak golfer with clubs that are too heavy for him. Can this hinder the tumble action? Reverse tumble?
PS Yes, I'm the weak golfer.
Curtis,
No strength needed at all for club face squaring, if the left arm and club are in a desirable relationship the torque needed to line up the club face requires NO STRENGTH
Steve Greffen
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What a great, visual description. Thanks Michael.
Steve
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Billy McKinney
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Just a side note, most modern clubs are tooooo light to really be handled properly. Just my opinion.
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