Restraining lateral hip slide

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Can minimizing lateral hip slide be equated to swinging more left?

I saw Brian a month ago and I've made some nice progress with the "pattern" he gave me. When I do run into trouble it is because I "lunge" left with my lower body. I've found that visualizing a golf shaft stuck into the ground along my left side helps. As long as I concentrate on a good backswing pivot, "hips, hands, and clubhead progression", and not bumping that imaginary shaft with my hips I can hit some pretty remarkable (for me) shots.

Thoughts on this? Eventually, I'll overcook it. But until then, I might have found my golden goose.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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hip slide is good as long as you don't have too much; too much equates usually to a whole bunch of tilt and a path that is too far right.

So a feeling of less slide FOR YOU could be a good thing.
 
hip slide is good as long as you don't have too much; too much equates usually to a whole bunch of tilt and a path that is too far right.

So a feeling of less slide FOR YOU could be a good thing.

Any insight on proper (approximate) slide distance Jim? At the pratice range I've been experimenting with a shaft stuck in the ground in front of my lead leg(left) and it's helped to minimize my slide and tilt.

How much is enough and how much is too much? Do you think it's generic or case by case?
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Any insight on proper (approximate) slide distance Jim? At the pratice range I've been experimenting with a shaft stuck in the ground in front of my lead leg(left) and it's helped to minimize my slide and tilt.

How much is enough and how much is too much? Do you think it's generic or case by case?

Minimum would be enough to get the right shoulder down the plane 'on plane.'

Maximum would be enough to hit the ball REALLY HIGH without 'hanging back.'

I would say your stock pattern should be somewhere in the middle. Over time as your swing gets better and better you can vary the tilt to help achieve different ball heights.
 
But until then, I might have found my golden goose.

Bonesy, this is the exact problem i have been fighting for years, too much lateral slide for me means pushes, sweeping hooks and shanks. Basically the path heading too far right. I have to really concentrate on almost feeling like i'm keeping the weight on my right foot as long as possible into the downswing... obviously this doesn't happen in reality, is just a feel.

If you find any other ways to cure this dreaded curse i'm all ears!

Cheers
 
Bonesy, this is the exact problem i have been fighting for years, too much lateral slide for me means pushes, sweeping hooks and shanks. Basically the path heading too far right. I have to really concentrate on almost feeling like i'm keeping the weight on my right foot as long as possible into the downswing... obviously this doesn't happen in reality, is just a feel.

If you find any other ways to cure this dreaded curse i'm all ears!

Cheers

Stick and old golf shaft in the ground right in front of your left foot, if you're right handed of course. Try not to hit it with your hip. ;)
 
Minimum would be enough to get the right shoulder down the plane 'on plane.'


I recently started to focus on the right shoulder down the plane and, for me, it automatically directs the left side/ hip to where it should be (I think). I've been very pleased with the results.

From there, I've started to manuver the left hip (by straightening the left leg) as an added source toward powering the right shoulder down plane.

The result from part 1 has been lots of consistant shots. The result from part 2 is more power with some inconsistancy.

But I'm thinking it will be more accurate after I do it a few thousand more times.
 
Bonesy,

The problem is not with sliding the hips, it is with sliding them in the wrong direction..
As much of your weight as possible needs to be over (or even forward) of your left foot at impact, to give you correct balance..
The problem arises when your hips are too closed for too long..
The ideal situation is when your hips slide left while your right hip is coming around towards the target, this gets your weight in the right place at the right time.

Try the thought of firing your right hip diagonally to the right of the target before impact (but DON'T attempt to pull your left hip back)
 
I think I'm having problems with this hip slide again. I'm not hooking very much thanks to NHA but my driver and 3wood are hooking off the tee again. Can I just feel like my left butt cheek goes straight back (no lateral motion) as my hips open up? Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. When I practice this in slow motion it seems like I have all kinds of room to swing left.
 

ej20

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I don't think a deliberate hip slide to the left is really that important.You can still achieve axis tilt without it.

Every power player has wide open hips at impact and some even before impact.They appear to be spinning or clearing their hips,not sliding.

The key is to do it without spinning out the shoulders.
 
I don't think a deliberate hip slide to the left is really that important.You can still achieve axis tilt without it.

Every power player has wide open hips at impact and some even before impact.They appear to be spinning or clearing their hips,not sliding.

The key is to do it without spinning out the shoulders.

I agree...way too many people go at it too hard with their legs/lower body. You have to find the trick to the correct pivot. I have found that it doesn't involve the legs/lower body near as much as I thought,for my pattern at least. IMO I think Tiger is figuring this out as well.
 
I have the slide problem now, and have had it for a very long time. Just a short story from yesterday's Senior League tournament. I'm playing in the first group, two of us wannabe's at 10, and the two top guys, -1 and 0. I shoot 38 on the front and am only 3 behind. Backside, my old legs start to go and I take two triples for a 46. Comment from partner is that I started really moving around on the backswing.

The top guy shot 34 - 32 for a 68 and the other guy shot 34 - 34 for a tie.
Top guy had 6 one putts in row on the back. Consistency is the difference. Top guy is about my height at 6'2". He places 70 percent of his weight on his rear foot and pretty much feels like it stays there. Tells me his goal is stability. Obviously works for him. Also helps that he was an all-star athlete and now plays 4 days a week. This guy is almost 69 years old! Other guy is a stout, 5'7"and not yet 60. Again very stable without a lot of leg action. When I execute, I'm two clubs longer than either of them. The failure to execute is my downfall.

Guess I need to hit the gym, but that isn't likely to happen.
 
I have the slide problem now, and have had it for a very long time. Just a short story from yesterday's Senior League tournament. I'm playing in the first group, two of us wannabe's at 10, and the two top guys, -1 and 0. I shoot 38 on the front and am only 3 behind. Backside, my old legs start to go and I take two triples for a 46. Comment from partner is that I started really moving around on the backswing.

The top guy shot 34 - 32 for a 68 and the other guy shot 34 - 34 for a tie.
Top guy had 6 one putts in row on the back. Consistency is the difference. Top guy is about my height at 6'2". He places 70 percent of his weight on his rear foot and pretty much feels like it stays there. Tells me his goal is stability. Obviously works for him. Also helps that he was an all-star athlete and now plays 4 days a week. This guy is almost 69 years old! Other guy is a stout, 5'7"and not yet 60. Again very stable without a lot of leg action. When I execute, I'm two clubs longer than either of them. The failure to execute is my downfall.

Guess I need to hit the gym, but that isn't likely to happen.

34-32= 68 hmmm.:rolleyes::)
 
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