Retief: NOTHING was wrong with your backswing
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mjstrong
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define "perfect"...
His left arm was always bent at impact. Funny how he's now going through a little bit of a "Westwoodian" break from the upper echelon of world golfers. I wonder if he felt that it was something he had to fix in order to compete more regularly?
I agree with lia...2 US Opens with a near-third in a 5? year span isn't all that bad.
His left arm was always bent at impact. Funny how he's now going through a little bit of a "Westwoodian" break from the upper echelon of world golfers. I wonder if he felt that it was something he had to fix in order to compete more regularly?
I agree with lia...2 US Opens with a near-third in a 5? year span isn't all that bad.
lia41985
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Retief's instructor at Lake Nona is working to get him less across the line at the top.
And the left wrist isn't super flat at impact--so what? He's got a lot of right arm participation and hit a nice high draw with his pattern.
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well they'll be trying to break the habit of a lifetime lol
retiefs always been across the line
mjstrong
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Hey, I'm with you. But, if he were to have asked an instructor what he should work on, that could have been the answer...right or wrong.
thefuture37
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That sequence must be from a long time ago. His DTL sequence from that pgatour.com slow mo site shows a different swing. Backswing is the same but he stands way up through impact. He is pretty much standing straight up at impact with his shoulders tilted.
Kevin Shields
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Halfway down, he gets an underplane right shoulder getting him under the sweetspot. Hits alot of push fades (remember Pinehurst). Across the line has little to do with it. Great rythym, tho. But since I haven't won multiple majors, I should keep my opinions to myself.
Kevin Shields
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When you watch Retief, he has a tiny little "out" move of the hands to start the downswing. He immediatley catches it and goes down, not out with the shoulder and entire right side. That gets and otherwise real good swing (obviously) under the sweetspot and causes that right arm to square it and the left to break down, i think.
self-mastery
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Mr. Shields your analysis is spot on. Retief was once one of my top guys to cheer for. I loved his Sneed-like pull draw, and I have an affinity for high drawers that use right hand participation. Why change such a world class motion?
Kevin Shields
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Absolutelt. He used to cover the ball and move left as well as anyone.
Halfway down, he gets an underplane right shoulder getting him under the sweetspot. Hits alot of push fades (remember Pinehurst). Across the line has little to do with it. Great rythym, tho. But since I haven't won multiple majors, I should keep my opinions to myself.
very well said Mr Shields.
well in that case this forum should shut down, because, correct me if im wrong, none of us have won 5/6 majors or more. and therefore none of us are allowed to speak about the technique of these players
Kevin Shields
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Too soon, or as a recovery for an "out' move from the top. Or when your axis tilt doesn't match your turn.
I followed him for the first 36 holes at Pinehurst in 2005, saw every shot. He was basically flawless. He hit this tight little draw all day. I swear if he had putted as straight as he hit it the first day he would've shot 64. I'm still shocked he played as poorly on Sunday as he did. He was so good that Thursday and Friday, it was (and still is) hard to believe.
And it doesn't seem as though he's recovered since. Any stat-geeks wanna see what his record has been since? I haven't looked, but my guess is pretty poor, at least a significant drop from where he was before then.
And it doesn't seem as though he's recovered since. Any stat-geeks wanna see what his record has been since? I haven't looked, but my guess is pretty poor, at least a significant drop from where he was before then.
birdie_man
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His backswing (pre-changes) reminds me of Ochoa's.
self-mastery
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I can see that! Maybe he should head down to Mexico and get a lesson from Rafael Alarcon. He fixed Ochoa's chokeyness with better mechanics.
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