Right elbow bend = delayed release?

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dsmith2296

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This last week, I got good results in delaying the release by trying to load my right elbow with BEND at downswing transition. Basically, I use my downswing pivot just BEFORE the club reaches the top to load my right elbow with bend. I visualize the transition pivot as slinging my right arm into a side arm pitching position. Make sense to anyone?
 
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like this??

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May be subtle. May just be a feel I have rather something I really do. But watch closely paying particular attention to Sergio's right elbow on the downswing here. Its that little smidgen of right arm bend at TRANSITION that seems to load up the right arm. If you do that, you are going to have more delay.


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He certainly flattens out the shaft plane as early and dynamically as anyone.

His right elbow bend may be more of an Effect than a Cause.

Check out his hips in the transition.
 
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savydan said:
He certainly flattens out the shaft plane as early and dynamically as anyone.

His right elbow bend may be more of an Effect than a Cause.

Check out his hips in the transition.
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Yes, I belive the downswing pivot back loads it up-- great swing thought for you guys to take to the range and report back!
 
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dsmith2296 said:
This last week, I got good results in delaying the release by trying to load my right elbow with BEND at downswing transition. Basically, I use my downswing pivot just BEFORE the club reaches the top to load my right elbow with bend. I visualize the transition pivot as slinging my right arm into a side arm pitching position. Make sense to anyone?
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I had similar results at the range recently. I've always had difficulty in holding the lag in the wrists, as the club-head run ahead of my hands. So I concentrated on holding the elbow bent at the beginning of the pivot, and once my elbow dropped into position, while continuing to pivot I straightened my right elbow in a hitting-type action. The result was straighter and longer drives than I usually hit. This led me to conclude that my throwaway problem was in the right elbow rather than the hands/wrists. I haven't had enough time since then to continue working on this idea so it still needs further verification.
 
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Kevin Shields said:
Delay in the transition and a downplane right shoulder.
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Yes.I like to feel my right shoulder driving down plane leaving my hands behind.Not an easy move to get down pat though.

I think this is where some TGM guys fall over.They focus so much on the hands and not the pivot.It works great with little chips and pitches but not so on the full swing.I hear it all the time with TGM students....."If only I can do that on the full swing.....".
 
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dsmith2296 said:
This last week, I got good results in delaying the release by trying to load my right elbow with BEND at downswing transition. Basically, I use my downswing pivot just BEFORE the club reaches the top to load my right elbow with bend. I visualize the transition pivot as slinging my right arm into a side arm pitching position. Make sense to anyone?
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Thanks Dsmith. Your post and this thread led to a real breakthrough for me.

In my lesson with Brian last summer we worked on getting me to shift to the ELBOW plane (changing me from a single shift to a double shift). I was able to hit some amazing shots, but I couldn't really capture the feel using the drills we worked on. I think the problem is that I was manipluating the hands too much.

But what you described here worked amazingly well for me.

For me, I think of it as just floating loading, but at the moment of the float load I also feel the club fall onto PP#3 and the right elbow dropped down underneath the club (like a waiter holding a tray of drinks). This PUT me into pitch elbow position rather than trying to move the hand to that position. If I just float loaded and then pivoted hard, I got the club onto that shallower plane that Brian was working on. Once there it's just amazing to me how easy it is to really just hit the ball hard.
 
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fronesis said:
Thanks Dsmith. Your post and this thread led to a real breakthrough for me.

In my lesson with Brian last summer we worked on getting me to shift to the shoulder plane (changing me from a single shift to a double shift). I was able to hit some amazing shots, but I couldn't really capture the feel using the drills we worked on. I think the problem is that I was manipluating the hands too much.

But what you described here worked amazingly well for me.

For me, I think of it as just floating loading, but at the moment of the float load I also feel the club fall onto PP#3 and the right elbow dropped down underneath the club (like a waiter holding a tray of drinks). This PUT me into pitch elbow position rather than trying to move the hand to that position. If I just float loaded and then pivoted hard, I got the club onto that shallower plane that Brian was working on. Once there it's just amazing to me how easy it is to really just hit the ball hard.
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Keep me updated. Curious as to how you were hitting versus now.
 
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