I was just on Chuck Evans site and one of his video clips on Driving mentioned that one key to good driving is setting up at address with the right forearm in line with the clubshaft. Is that right? I looked at his video and tried it myself and found that in order to do this the driver shaft is very upright and the ball has to be very far away from me. Help.
Right forearm in line with clubshaft at address?
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had difficulty figuring out how to set up with the right forearm in line with the shaft until I saw the picture on the right in the link below, which led to my "aha!" moment:
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/120728/1/4341641
When I first tried the impact fix position, I found that my right forearm lined up with the shaft without even trying. (You will find that your right elbow is bent at impact fix as is Justin Rose's at impact.) I then moved to a more centered-hands (adjusted address) position but I ensured that I maintained the same angle between the top of my left forearm and the shaft as I had at impact fix and maintained the bend in the right elbow, i.e., I did not let my hands go lower as they are in Justin Rose's address photo on the left.
At first the address position felt awkward because I was so used to having lower hands at address, but I got used to it quite quickly. Now the address feels and looks normal. There is still an angle between the left forearm and shaft and you definitely do not assume a position more associated with Natural Golf. No lie change was necessary because my lies were set dynamically using a lie board, and at impact, the shaft naturally lined up with my right forearm. I haven't viewed your video in detail, but I would bet that at impact your right forearm and shaft are in-line with each other, even though they don't start off that way at address. And I suspect you won't need to change your lie angles much, if at all.
had difficulty figuring out how to set up with the right forearm in line with the shaft until I saw the picture on the right in the link below, which led to my "aha!" moment:
http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/120728/1/4341641
When I first tried the impact fix position, I found that my right forearm lined up with the shaft without even trying. (You will find that your right elbow is bent at impact fix as is Justin Rose's at impact.) I then moved to a more centered-hands (adjusted address) position but I ensured that I maintained the same angle between the top of my left forearm and the shaft as I had at impact fix and maintained the bend in the right elbow, i.e., I did not let my hands go lower as they are in Justin Rose's address photo on the left.
At first the address position felt awkward because I was so used to having lower hands at address, but I got used to it quite quickly. Now the address feels and looks normal. There is still an angle between the left forearm and shaft and you definitely do not assume a position more associated with Natural Golf. No lie change was necessary because my lies were set dynamically using a lie board, and at impact, the shaft naturally lined up with my right forearm. I haven't viewed your video in detail, but I would bet that at impact your right forearm and shaft are in-line with each other, even though they don't start off that way at address. And I suspect you won't need to change your lie angles much, if at all.
Brian Manzella
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Stuart Appleby...the very best at it.
birdie_man
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Not sure...interesting tho that his swing is the same as Elk's, and Elkington is a TGM guy. Are they both Aussies?
Jim Kobylinski
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Most pros go to an adjusted address position with mid body hands which will not have the right forearm on plane i believe.
birdie_man
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What about Appleby?
bambam
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Not sure, but looks like he used Elk's swing as a model
http://www.golfdigest.com/instructi...struction/swingsequences/gd200409appleby.html
Brian Manzella
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What I do is TRY to get to an Address position that works.
The better the player, the more they can UTILIZE lower hands.
BUT!....I don't prefer them.
The better the player, the more they can UTILIZE lower hands.
BUT!....I don't prefer them.
I think the lower your hands are at address,the more the shaft is set closer to the elbow plane.It's physically impossible to swing a club on the elbow plane entirely,therefore plane shifts will occur during the swing,making a repetitive action more difficult.The upside is that you keep the proper forward spine tilt with lower hands,enabling the correct plane of the swing to be at right angles with the spine.I believe this should provide more potential power.
The only way to setup with high hands with enough forward spine tilt is to setup like Moe Norman.Hands and arms outstretched looking ungainly.Or you have long legs and very short arms.Or you shorten your arms by bending them.
It is difficult the get the right forearm perfectly on plane at address.It doesn't matter as long as you get it on plane at impact.
The only way to setup with high hands with enough forward spine tilt is to setup like Moe Norman.Hands and arms outstretched looking ungainly.Or you have long legs and very short arms.Or you shorten your arms by bending them.
It is difficult the get the right forearm perfectly on plane at address.It doesn't matter as long as you get it on plane at impact.
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