Right Forearm Takeaway [AudioAnswer]
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The RFT is the best take-away to use since it allows the club to remain as close as possible to the required incline circle. A shoulder take-away is fine but takes the club off plane and out of the true circle and needs to be re-routed. Again -no problem with that, most golfers do that. The RFT is just a better way, Swing or Hit.
I have found the simplest way to perform the RFT is to use Extensor Action by folding the right elbow after a slight up and out fanning of the right arm. This bending of the elbow pulls the left hand up, out and in, it allows the needed extensor action and set the hands perfectly. The folding right elbow also c0cks the left wrist.
The RFT is one of the top ten “TGM best things to learn and use.”
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You can use a shoulder turn takeaway and still be on plane....there is a way. Tiger did it in 2000 and i do it now. You just need plane lasers and/or flashlights to see the actual plane
JohhnyThomas1
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I think Chuck says you have to load the power package early to stay onplane Jim?
Brian Manzella
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Brian, thanks for the audio. After listening to it and reviewing one of your old video clips I finally understand. I think I was trying to overcomplicate it. I think for some time I've used a combination of the two. My backswing is a big problem for me, I need to grove it. ok, headed to the range now...
David Alford
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Three of the greatest ball strikers ever used a LEFT takeaway. They MIGHT change your mind about a RFT being superior.
Ben Hogan. Byron Nelson. Moe Norman. Do those names carry any weight? We could add quite a few more...
Nevertheless, I could also make a defense of RFT...
Ben Hogan. Byron Nelson. Moe Norman. Do those names carry any weight? We could add quite a few more...
Nevertheless, I could also make a defense of RFT...
birdie_man
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Thnx for the clip Brian.
K...so you say geometry is better with RFT while physics are better with STT...
1. K so I know what that means but what's the point? Could you say then that swinging (uses physics- i.e. Centrif. Force- to it's advantage) may be better with STT while hitting (uses geometry- structure) may be better with RFT? I'm kinda lost/intrigued by this one.
2. K so RFT should be ON plane because that's where it should go. BUT you say STT, w/o manipulation from the hands, takes it below the plane naturally. So would you prefer a STT to go inside (as is natural) or should you still try to STT on plane?
Thanks Brian.
-Paul
K...so you say geometry is better with RFT while physics are better with STT...
1. K so I know what that means but what's the point? Could you say then that swinging (uses physics- i.e. Centrif. Force- to it's advantage) may be better with STT while hitting (uses geometry- structure) may be better with RFT? I'm kinda lost/intrigued by this one.
2. K so RFT should be ON plane because that's where it should go. BUT you say STT, w/o manipulation from the hands, takes it below the plane naturally. So would you prefer a STT to go inside (as is natural) or should you still try to STT on plane?
Thanks Brian.
-Paul
Tried out several combos yesterday in three hours at the range. Here are the results
RFT with hitting, left a lot of balls out to the right. Seemed to have difficulty squaring up the face.
Shoulder takeaway swinging, absolutely bombed the ball when I hit it well, little more variance shot to shot though than I would have liked.
RFT takeaway and then pull with the left arm(swinging) just kept hitting shot after shot straight. Really liked the swing, just had to be careful not to involve the right arm on the downswing too much. Very accurate with the short irons.
For those of you using RFT, do you typically hit or swing??
RFT with hitting, left a lot of balls out to the right. Seemed to have difficulty squaring up the face.
Shoulder takeaway swinging, absolutely bombed the ball when I hit it well, little more variance shot to shot though than I would have liked.
RFT takeaway and then pull with the left arm(swinging) just kept hitting shot after shot straight. Really liked the swing, just had to be careful not to involve the right arm on the downswing too much. Very accurate with the short irons.
For those of you using RFT, do you typically hit or swing??
David Alford
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>>Would RFT, make the swing look slightly flatter on takeaway for some people?<<
There are various ways to do RFT. If done correctly, the takeaway and backswing will be correct.
Re: varying results with RFT using swing/hit combos, the results should be perfect ball flight if you are doing things correctly.
I guess that sounds truistic...
There are various ways to do RFT. If done correctly, the takeaway and backswing will be correct.
Re: varying results with RFT using swing/hit combos, the results should be perfect ball flight if you are doing things correctly.
I guess that sounds truistic...
birdie_man
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Not if it's up the turned shoulder plane as is recommended I guess- preferred by Homer Kelly.
STT takes it inside naturally (like Hogan, Snead- look at their swings) if you do not use any hands on the way back (any manipulations- you have to keep your hands and forearms absolutely limp)- if you do it properly the clubhead will drag along the ground to the inside for a foot or so (literally- DRAG along the ground- as in touching the ground).
So if you want to take the club (more) straight back and up the turned shoulder plane why not just use the hands to do it? This way you don't have to worry about any other influence from the shoulders...you don't have to blend hand takeaway and shoulder takeaway. You just worry about one thing- your hands...and you pivot should take care of itself if it's trained to do so.
Makes sense to me. The feeling of using only the right arm may be strange at first- most people don't do it I think.
You'll find it becomes very very normal and automatic pretty quickly though.
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