Sam Snead Swing Analysis with Audio, by Brian Manzella

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Brian Manzella

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golfspike

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Mr Manzella in your own swing you put up i posted you looked a bit Sneadish . Would it be fair to say that your own swing pattern ( the one you posted ) is based basically on Snead? Enjoyed the audio and you are in no doubt a man of total conviction in your beliefs
 
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Great job Brian. This definitely is a swing for all times. I was fortunate to be able to watch Snead play and practice. The pictures do not do justice to the grace, rhythm and power that Snead had.
 
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That was absolutely beautiful! Snead is the GOAT. When Hogan was in his rocking chair, Snead was still smashing drives. Longevity + sum of PGA tour wins = GOAT.

Imagine if he could putt?
 
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self-mastery said:
That was absolutely beautiful! Snead is the GOAT. When Hogan was in his rocking chair, Snead was still smashing drives. Longevity + sum of PGA tour wins = GOAT.

Imagine if he could putt?
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how is he the greatest if he couldn't putt well? do you mean the greatest golf swing? to determine the greatest golfers ever, all you need to do is look at majors won.
 
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Brian thanks for the analysis - maybe you can do one of Jack Nicklaus? It would be an interesting comparison of two of the all time greatest.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55iJT8Kcc0I&feature=related[/media]
 
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thefuture37 said:
how is he the greatest if he couldn't putt well? do you mean the greatest golf swing? to determine the greatest golfers ever, all you need to do is look at majors won.
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You could debate this forever, but future has a point, in that the criteria has to be taken into account. It could be argued that Sam's win total was as much due to his freakish physical gifts that gave him the ability to be good for longer than anyone else could, rather than being that much better than his peers.
 
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Bigwill said:
You could debate this forever, but future has a point, in that the criteria has to be taken into account. It could be argued that Sam's win total was as much due to his freakish physical gifts that gave him the ability to be good for longer than anyone else could, rather than being that much better than his peers.
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you can say what you want about individual parts of anyone's game, but when objectively comparing nicklaus and snead, its pretty obvious who had the better career. nicklaus played 5 fewer years and only trailed snead in total victories by 9. snead only had 7 major wins and never won a us open. i would rank anyone with the career grand slam higher than anyone that didnt(except possibly for those players played before the modern grand slam tournaments), regardless of their total win counts.
 
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My formula is easy because I don't buy into the importance of winning majors:

He who has the most wins is the best player. The US Open is nothing...
 
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self-mastery said:
My formula is easy because I don't buy into the importance of winning majors:

He who has the most wins is the best player. The US Open is nothing...
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well, that makes absolutely no sense. to you, 9 regular tour wins are worth more than 11 more majors. the patriots won 18 games last season but they were the biggest losers of the league. regular tour event wins are big deals to players that can't win majors.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
I had this crazy idea that we would talk about his mechanics.
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Brian - back to mechanics - what are your thoughts on the lateral weight shift in his swing?

mandrin said:
Upswing-

The forward press seems to be done with the knees.

The lead knee remains initially very stable and only moves towards the trail knee during the last moment of the up swing. This action is like a little booster action allowing deeper coiling to be obtained.

Down swing -

Initial move - lead knee buckles out considerably towards the target whilst weight remains on trail side as there is no lateral hip slide.

Old timers such as Joe Norwood and Paul Bertholy were much inspired by this particular down swing action typically of Sam Snead's swing.

Nick Pice, if I remember correctly, mentions in his book keeping the weight onto the trail side in the initial phase of the downswing.

The lead knee has a considerable action during the down swing. The large buckling action towards the target is followed by a substantial reverse action when the lead leg (and trail leg) is snapped straight.

Notice how the trail elbow in the down-swing is very clearly visible below the lead arm which isn't the case in the up-swing. This is indicative of a flattening of the down swing from the top.

There is a remarkable stable vertical stacking of the body during the downswing.
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Brian, I think your audio commentary was ok, but I think too much time was spent on bashing the tripod and right forearm pickup and stack and tilt, etc. (a reoccurring theme in a lot of your swing analysis) and not enough time spent on real analysis.

Snead’s swing is great but a lot of people will find it difficult to lift the left heel as far as he did, and have their right leg as straight without backing out. Maybe that’s why like Brian says frame #6 is a better top position for most guys. And how does he not push it with that arched left wrist?
 
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A good example on a swing reliant on rotational forces. I like the left heel coming off the ground on the backswing as it shows he has really turned the right hip socket.
 
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