Serious question

[pokerlife]

Hi i have a bad case of early extension and hit the ball 240 carry with the driver..
Was just curious if i fixed this swing issue and used my hips properly if i would see a dramatic increase in distance say 270 carry??

I hit the ball nice and flush and break 80 on occasion .. But was curious if it was worth trying to fix.. Don't really want to keep stressing and trying to fix something if there is no reward ..

 

[art]

Hi i have a bad case of early extension and hit the ball 240 carry with the driver..
Was just curious if i fixed this swing issue and used my hips properly if i would see a dramatic increase in distance say 270 carry??

I hit the ball nice and flush and break 80 on occasion .. But was curious if it was worth trying to fix.. Don't really want to keep stressing and trying to fix something if there is no reward ..

Dear pokerlife,

Can you post a video, or describe your 240 yard typical swing in more detail please ??

As a starter, you can also combine the characteristics of recent inputs on "back to the target", and "lower body dynamic balance", and if properly executed, I believe you will gain significant yardage, AND lessen your actual, or just concern of 'early extension'.

Please include the results of tests with these small changes in your response too if possible.

As encouragement, I have had the personal pleasure of presenting these 'lower body dynamic balancing enhancements' to Brian, and two of his instructors Jon Hardesty and Billy Mckinney, with positive results in both distance, and dispersion reduction. The next most important area becomes the dynamic stability of the upper body, and that is why I am interested in seeing a video of your swing.

If like Brian, Jon and Billy, however, you have adequate stability in the upper body, expect to gain 10% in distance, and reduce your dispersion 30-50 % if you have access to, and can test on Trackman or FlightScope. If not, ask a friend to observe and note the changes in ball flight from these changes.

Good luck, and please let us know how this works out for you.

Regards,
Art

 

[pokerlife]

thanks. Sent you 2 videos in a private message.. Will try the turned right hip at setup tomorrow and report bacK!

 

[mgranato]

Do you know what your club/ball speeds are?

 

[golfie]

Poker,

A ton of tumble (from the top) cured 80% of my early extension. A bit of keeping the right hip back as Art suggests has completed the eradication. Cannot speak for distance as I am still hitting in a Dome. Accuracy and contact are much, much better. Distance is at least a good.

Golfie

 

[ballaholic]

Your numbers (swing speed, angle of attack, face, path) are going be the determining factor in whether you can hit 270 or more. If you're hitting it 240 and hitting down on the driver, you will easily hit it 270 by learning how to hit up on the ball with the driver. But without knowing your numbers from a Trackman or Flightscope it's not really possible to speculate.

 

[SteveT]

poke ..... what is your normal driver ball flight... draw, fade, or straight?

What is your common trajectory problem(s).... hook, slice, worm-burner, pop-up .... shank, whiff?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Hi i have a bad case of early extension and hit the ball 240 carry with the driver..
Was just curious if i fixed this swing issue and used my hips properly if i would see a dramatic increase in distance say 270 carry??

I hit the ball nice and flush and break 80 on occasion .. But was curious if it was worth trying to fix.. Don't really want to keep stressing and trying to fix something if there is no reward ..

too generic of a question, need your launch monitor numbers.

 

[dschultz6072]

I can swing just under 100 mph and fly it 250 and roll it out to 270. If you get the right numbers you can drive the ball very far without a lot of swing speed. I think driver shots are one of the best to experiment with on the range because there is so much you can gain just by coming into the ball a certain way.

 

[art]

thanks. Sent you 2 videos in a private message.. Will try the turned right hip at setup tomorrow and report bacK!

Dear pokerlife,

Thanks for the videos, and after seeing them, my previous comments are still appropriate and applicable.

I noted a friend making comments and that can be a GREAT help for your progress if he reads and follows what I have suggested.

One last observation, I noticed after several of your shots with both the 8 iron and the driver, you LOST your balance, and had to walk backwards toward the camera.

That is a sign of not enough lower body dynamic balance, so when you follow "Bumpy Back, keep it Back", a measure of success will be that you are able to remain in your follow thru position WITHOUT falling backward.

I plan on writing more about the physical signs of incipient instabilities soon, but for now, 'Bumpy Back.....", and hold your finish.

Good luck, and let us know the results please.

Regards,
Art

 

[SteveT]

I plan on writing more about the physical signs of incipient instabilities soon, but for now, 'Bumpy Back.....", and hold your finish.
Regards,
Art

Arturo.... when you are writing about the "physical signs of incipient instabilities", please don't forget to explain what 20-50lbs. of extra belly mass will do to the incipient momentum of the hips, core and torso... as well as the impact on the migrating center of mass within or without the foot base.... oh, and the attempt of counterweighting by the "Bumpy"... (your average golfer?!)

Also, speculating on the spinal shear torque might be a good idea.....

 

[pokerlife]

sorry guys was gone to pool tourney all day.. typical ball flight is really high and straight .. 235 240 Carry..

Still not sure about video rules on this site.. If needs to be taken down let me know

 

[pokerlife]

Dear pokerlife,

Thanks for the videos, and after seeing them, my previous comments are still appropriate and applicable.

I noted a friend making comments and that can be a GREAT help for your progress if he reads and follows what I have suggested.

One last observation, I noticed after several of your shots with both the 8 iron and the driver, you LOST your balance, and had to walk backwards toward the camera.

That is a sign of not enough lower body dynamic balance, so when you follow "Bumpy Back, keep it Back", a measure of success will be that you are able to remain in your follow thru position WITHOUT falling backward.

I plan on writing more about the physical signs of incipient instabilities soon, but for now, 'Bumpy Back.....", and hold your finish.

Good luck, and let us know the results please.

Regards,
Art

Thanks for the insight . what is bumpy back? I try to keep my tush back but it doesn't stay .. It's really bad as you can see

 

[SteveT]

Thanks for the insight . what is bumpy back? I try to keep my tush back but it doesn't stay .. It's really bad as you can see

Nice backswing, pokey.... but I'll leave the downswing critique to others. Btw, how tall are you, because you are rather steep in your swing.

Oh.. Arturo is referring to the mass of yer ass.. aka "Bumpy", and he wants you to hold your butt back in the downswing... I think.

 

[pokerlife]

Nice backswing, pokey.... but I'll leave the downswing critique to others. Btw, how tall are you, because you are rather steep in your swing.

Oh.. Arturo is referring to the mass of yer ass.. aka "Bumpy", and he wants you to hold your butt back in the downswing... I think.

Thanks Steve ! I think ,, ive always thought my backswing was a little to long and also my head moves forward toward the ball a pretty good amount on the backswing.. Been trying to shorten it but its''s tough.
Im 5'8 140 pounds right about cory pavins size..

I know Brian always says tush line doesn't really matter that's why Im curious if its even worth the headache of trying to fix .. If the fix isn't going to produce more distance why bother.. 240 carry is about what i get. May just be stuck with it

 

[Kevin Shields]

Well, I agree that it's a bit long and you move your head toward the target. Weight settles in to the left foot prematurely, making you jump up too soon and tug your hands at the ball. Hurts arm speed where you need it most IMO.

 

[pokerlife]

Well, I agree that it's a bit long and you move your head toward the target. Weight settles in to the left foot prematurely, making you jump up too soon and tug your hands at the ball. Hurts arm speed where you need it most IMO.

Congrats on your award Kevin! Here is a face on with 8 iron.. Maybe you can see something with the weight shift your talking about from this view.. Thanks again

 

[Matt 4-L]

You need to fix your setup, your spine is tilting forward.

I think the goat hump is a last ditch effort to get some axis tilt.

 

[pokerlife]

You need to fix your setup, your spine is tilting forward.

I think the goat hump is a last ditch effort to get some axis tilt.

So my spine is tilting to left at setup and needs to point behind ball?

 

[spktho]

Check this thread out from Michael Jacobs' site. I got some excellent instruction in that thread and have been hitting hit the best I ever have after learning that set up and backswing, then implementing the no-tug, little lay off transition to set up the tumble. I think you could use most, if not all of it.

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