shaft too stiff if...?

[tongzilla]

From the front on view of the swing, if the shaft unbends (i.e. C-shaped as opposed to D-shaped) too early during the downswing, does that mean the shaft is too stiff? Assume a reasonably orthodox swing.

 

[puttmad]

Can't you get this from the ball flight?...ie.e. you will weak-push a lot of shots if the shaft is too stiff (so I've been told )...

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

It depends on the player and the shaft design. Some shafts i hook when they are too soft and some i slice when they are too soft.

 

[earlymann]

I don't think Leo is asking about ballflight or shot outcome.

As to your question, I would tend to agree. If it unbends too early, as in C, then it may be too stiff.

 

[tongzilla]

yes earlymann, I'm not really asking about ball flights, as one can make numerous compensations to alter the ball-flight effect. I'm starting to think that the best way to fit a shaft might not be ball-flight because of this. It's what should the stiffness be? We don't make the lie angle really upright for someone who slices the ball. For the same reason, I don't think we should use shaft fitting as a major way to adjust flight.

I'm asking this question (about early unbending of shaft) because Brian has mentioned this point a few times in the past. I'm wondering if his position has changed. When should the shaft start to unbend?

 

[phillygolf]

When should the shaft start to unbend?

When the hands slow down and do not maintain the same speed I think. So, even though the thrust might be the same, as the angles release and the radius increases, the resultant effect is the hands lose velocity - and the shaft begins to snap back. But maintaining that same thrust (whichever pp), will ensure lag is not lost until lowpoint.

I think.

Thoughts?

 

[Brian Manzella]

When the hands slow down and do not maintain the same speed I think. So, even though the thrust might be the same, as the angles release and the radius increases, the resultant effect is the hands lose velocity - and the shaft begins to snap back. But maintaining that same thrust (whichever pp), will ensure lag is not lost until lowpoint.

I think.

Thoughts?

Nope.

The shaft's TIP END will bend forward no matter what.

It should.

Finding out how much, is what a good fitter, and TRACKMAN are for.

 

[phillygolf]

Nope.

The shaft's TIP END will bend forward no matter what.

It should.

Finding out how much, is what a good fitter, and TRACKMAN are for.

Agreed,

I misspoke, I meant forward - once the hands slow, the shaft catches up, the shaft will bend forward - AGREED!