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deepdivot

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Need urgent help. I am very prone to hitting the ball in the heel of the club, especially with mid irons. I'm not an out to in swinger, and usually hit pushes and hooks as my misses. My question, No1 What is going on? No2 What drills do you suggest to avoid this wretched shot? FYI the toe of all my clubs has never been hit!
 

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check to see if your head sways ballward on the backswing. use you reflection at night in a window pane to check this.
 
If you don't have clubhead lag then you are not swinging the sweetspot of the clubface, and are left with nothing else to swing except the hosel.
 

Brian Manzella

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Ok.

You are LAGGING the HOSEL.

You need to LAG the SWEETSPOT.

Read this:

Never Slice Again
By Brian Manzella

Do you slice? Most golfers do. Even some people who hit the ball right-to-left are just slicers with enough compensation to turn the ball the other way. Believe it or not, fixing a slice is usually pretty easy. Often, one can make a permanent improvement in the first lesson. It’s easy, because there is only one thing that must be done correctly to correct the problem. Most golfers have no idea what it is or how to do it.

Why do you think you slice, because you come ‘over-the-top’? Reverse Pivot? Cut across the ball? ‘Hang back’ on your back foot, etc.?

Nope. You may do one or all of the above, but these ‘flaws’ don’t cause the slice, you do them because you slice.

You slice, because the clubface is too open. Period. Fix the clubface, and the slice goes bye-bye forever. The compensations will often also go away quickly when they are no longer needed.

The first step is to take any compensation out of your grip. You want a classic neutral grip (see AutoSuccess Magazine Sept. 03). Once this is done, you want to learn the all-important motion of the right wrist. Holding the club out in front of you, with the shaft level to the ground and the score lines vertical to the ground (PIC 1),
octpic1.gif

move the clubhead backward by bending the right wrist straight back while you bend the right elbow toward you. Your hands should stay directly in front of you as you do this (PIC 2).
octpic2.gif

If you do this correctly, the shaft will stay parallel to the ground, and the clubface will remain vertical to the ground. This is exactly the motion your hands should do during the backswing.

Most golfers incorrectly ‘cock’ their right wrist, which immediately bends the left wrist (PIC 3).
octpic3.gif

This ‘double wristcock’ puts the clubface in a toe down position at the top, with a bent left wrist and a flat right wrist (PIC 4),
octpic4.gif

the exact opposite of the correct hand conditions at impact.

By bending the right wrist and twisting the clubface away from you as you swing the club to about chest high on the backswing (PIC 5),
octpic5.gif

you put the clubface in a far less open position. The completed backswing should have a flat left wrist and a bent right wrist, with the clubface ‘matching’ the angle of the left wrist and arm (PIC 6).
octpic6.gif


Often, this ‘twist-away’, results in a slightly arched left wrist at the top. But that’s not a bad position to be in as you learn to make your hands do the opposite of what they were doing before.

A key element to this slice cure is to ‘hold the twist’ into the downswing. The clubface should look away from you halfway down, just as it did halfway back.

Often, these adjustments will fix the slice by themselves. But, most golfers need the further ‘insurance’ of a proper swivel of the hands as the club travels to the finish after impact. Through impact your left wrist needs to remain flat and your right wrist bent (PIC 7).
octpic7.gif

The clubface needs to turn toward the ground past the ball on the way to pointing toward the target. This swivel position should consist of a still flat left wrist and a ‘fully rolled’ whole left arm (PIC 8).
octpic8.gif

As the club nears the finish the left thumb should be under the club, and the left forearm should point straight toward the ground.

After making these adjustments, most slicers will be ex-slicers who need an improved impact position to keep from hitting the ball too right to left, a problem that most slicers would love to have.
 
Right on, brianman .... However do you ever suspect that when a TGM learner consciously attempts to manoevre a flat left wrist while keeping a flexed right wrist will overpower the SweetSpot Lag and Release?

Anybody holding a flexed right wrist through Impact may just hold on too tight, frustrate the natural pro-sup release action, and lead the hosel into the ball.

How do you ensure that TGM learners do not tighten up their arms when attempting to Hold the Lag with the Flying Wedgies.

I hope I am making sense .... really .... :)

(Btw, Homer was quite astute when he identified the Sweet Spot plane or axis. In scientific terms this is called the longitudinal centroidal axis of the golf club. Kudos to Homer!!)
 

deepdivot

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The theory all sounds good, but please can someone offer something to work on inorder to change this shot pattern, thanks.
 
Wonderfully helpful post. Thanks you. Johnny Millers has always claimed that he could fix almost any slicer in 15 minutes. What Johnny advocates for fixing the slice in very similar to what you teach. Only the language is different. IMO Johnny Miller was one of the best irons players ever. He understood the value of a flat left wrist. quote]Originally posted by brianman

Ok.

You are LAGGING the HOSEL.

You need to LAG the SWEETSPOT.

Read this:

Never Slice Again
By Brian Manzella

Do you slice? Most golfers do. Even some people who hit the ball right-to-left are just slicers with enough compensation to turn the ball the other way. Believe it or not, fixing a slice is usually pretty easy. Often, one can make a permanent improvement in the first lesson. It’s easy, because there is only one thing that must be done correctly to correct the problem. Most golfers have no idea what it is or how to do it.

Why do you think you slice, because you come ‘over-the-top’? Reverse Pivot? Cut across the ball? ‘Hang back’ on your back foot, etc.?

Nope. You may do one or all of the above, but these ‘flaws’ don’t cause the slice, you do them because you slice.

You slice, because the clubface is too open. Period. Fix the clubface, and the slice goes bye-bye forever. The compensations will often also go away quickly when they are no longer needed.

The first step is to take any compensation out of your grip. You want a classic neutral grip (see AutoSuccess Magazine Sept. 03). Once this is done, you want to learn the all-important motion of the right wrist. Holding the club out in front of you, with the shaft level to the ground and the score lines vertical to the ground (PIC 1),
octpic1.gif

move the clubhead backward by bending the right wrist straight back while you bend the right elbow toward you. Your hands should stay directly in front of you as you do this (PIC 2).
octpic2.gif

If you do this correctly, the shaft will stay parallel to the ground, and the clubface will remain vertical to the ground. This is exactly the motion your hands should do during the backswing.

Most golfers incorrectly ‘cock’ their right wrist, which immediately bends the left wrist (PIC 3).
octpic3.gif

This ‘double wristcock’ puts the clubface in a toe down position at the top, with a bent left wrist and a flat right wrist (PIC 4),
octpic4.gif

the exact opposite of the correct hand conditions at impact.

By bending the right wrist and twisting the clubface away from you as you swing the club to about chest high on the backswing (PIC 5),
octpic5.gif

you put the clubface in a far less open position. The completed backswing should have a flat left wrist and a bent right wrist, with the clubface ‘matching’ the angle of the left wrist and arm (PIC 6).
octpic6.gif


Often, this ‘twist-away’, results in a slightly arched left wrist at the top. But that’s not a bad position to be in as you learn to make your hands do the opposite of what they were doing before.

A key element to this slice cure is to ‘hold the twist’ into the downswing. The clubface should look away from you halfway down, just as it did halfway back.

Often, these adjustments will fix the slice by themselves. But, most golfers need the further ‘insurance’ of a proper swivel of the hands as the club travels to the finish after impact. Through impact your left wrist needs to remain flat and your right wrist bent (PIC 7).
octpic7.gif

The clubface needs to turn toward the ground past the ball on the way to pointing toward the target. This swivel position should consist of a still flat left wrist and a ‘fully rolled’ whole left arm (PIC 8).
octpic8.gif

As the club nears the finish the left thumb should be under the club, and the left forearm should point straight toward the ground.

After making these adjustments, most slicers will be ex-slicers who need an improved impact position to keep from hitting the ball too right to left, a problem that most slicers would love to have.
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