Shanking

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Until recently I was having great success with my new hitting motion. That last two weeks Ive been battling the shanks pretty bad. When I dont shank it seems Im hitting the ball towards the heel on all clubs. I dont know what Ive changed to cause this. I was watching Brians video the other day and he mentions lagging the hosel instead of the sweet spot. Not sure if Im doing that or not, but seemed to make sense. Anybody have any help for me. Its driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.
Lee
 

Jim Kobylinski

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If you are working on hitting you are keeping the face square to the arc instead of opening it to the plane right?

Well if you don't "hold" that alignment and somewhere let it open to the plane you are going to bring the hosel into impact instead of the sweet spot. Focus on keeping the face "square to the arc" and not letting that left arm rotate at all.

Do you have any of brian's video shorts? If you do, review i think the first one that shows how hitting/swinging differs in regards to face and left arm rotation.
 
Maybe my old swinging motion has crept back into my game.Ill have to pay attention to see if Im swiveling to much on my takeaway. Can one also shank bringing the right shoulder more forward than down in the downswing? My divots pretty much go out toward right field at the beginning than more toward the target.Can you come to far inside out and shank?
 
Same here. In 30 years of golf I never shanked until I picked up the yellow book and worked on hitting. Now, 5 months later I can't get rid of them and am eady to give up the game.


quote:Originally posted by jiggiwdit

Until recently I was having great success with my new hitting motion. That last two weeks Ive been battling the shanks pretty bad. When I dont shank it seems Im hitting the ball towards the heel on all clubs. I dont know what Ive changed to cause this. I was watching Brians video the other day and he mentions lagging the hosel instead of the sweet spot. Not sure if Im doing that or not, but seemed to make sense. Anybody have any help for me. Its driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.
Lee
 

Brian Manzella

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Well...ya see...if you are used to aligning the clubface for swinging on the downswing and you hit......eh....you shank!

So....maybe you should swing.
 
The problem noe is I can't get back to where I was. Before reading TGM, I had no idea or thoughts about what my hands were doing and was able to strike the ball pretty well.
quote:Originally posted by brianman

Well...ya see...if you are used to aligning the clubface for swinging on the downswing and you hit......eh....you shank!

So....maybe you should swing.
 
quote:Originally posted by dthobbs

The problem noe is I can't get back to where I was. Before reading TGM, I had no idea or thoughts about what my hands were doing and was able to strike the ball pretty well.
quote:Originally posted by brianman

Well...ya see...if you are used to aligning the clubface for swinging on the downswing and you hit......eh....you shank!

So....maybe you should swing.

This isn't TGM, but try putting more weight on your heels than you are now. I found this is a good cure for the shanks. That and make sure you aim at the inside quad of the ball.
 
quote:Originally posted by dthobbs

The problem noe is I can't get back to where I was. Before reading TGM, I had no idea or thoughts about what my hands were doing and was able to strike the ball pretty well.
Originally posted by brianman

Well...ya see...if you are used to aligning the clubface for swinging on the downswing and you hit......eh....you shank!

So....maybe you should swing.
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e] Bobby Clampett said that blaming the Golfing Machine for his bad golf is like a poet blaming the alphabet for the loss of ability to write well.
 
Brian Manzella said:
Keep the clubface off of the plane.


Dear Brian,

If I keep the clubface off of the plane on the downswing, how does this fit with the accumulators being released in the 4,1,2,3 order? Do I have to uncock (#2) the left wrist earlier so I can roll the left wrist (#3) to get the clubface off of the plane? Maybe golfers are not supposed to be worried about this but I was just wondering how it all fits. Thanks in advance!

Sustain the Lag,

John
 
I have been curing shanks for decades by pointing out two things:

1) When you set up soft for a touch shot with your clubface centered on the ball, with left elbow bent a hair and wrist cocked a tiny bit, the distance from your left shoulder to the clubhead is, let's say, "X" inches. But when you swing, even just a soft swing, THE CLUBHEAD'S WEIGHT AND CENTRIFUGAL REACTION will pull outward from your body, straightening your left arm and unc0cking your left wrist. So at THAT instant, the distance from your left shoulder to the clubface is "X + y" inches. IT GOT TOO LONG for the available distance from your left shoulder to the ball. So your clubhead has to go somewhere (if you didn't lift your sternum): it will either go DOWN into the dirt and hit the ball fat, OR it will move further from your feet and make contact on the hosel.

2) If your backswing is with your arms too low vis-a-vis your left shoulder, and the clubshaft winds around behind your shoulderblade, IT WILL GET THROWN OUT, not DOWN, as the downswing begins. You need to make the backswing plane for short clubs MORE VERTICAL to prevent this. Long clubs have a flatter plane, obviously, so if you are using THAT plane with a PW, you can set yourself up for the shank.

Everything else that causes shanks comes in after 99.98% of the above reasons.

The delivery of a club to a ball ALWAYS is "hosel first" - but you'd have to hold it VERY VERY TIGHT to get it to hit a golf ball with the face wide open...
 
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