Shoulder Turn - How Much

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DeepRedCee

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Hey guys

Was at the range the other day and I noticed something for the first time.

It seemed to me that on the backswing ALL the better players turned their left shoulder far enough to have it near/under their head area(even if they had shorter backswing)whilst the poorer ones were only turning to their left foot and were actually pointing to about 10 o'clock and to generalise therefore had much shorter quicker swings and were prone to less solid contact, height and distance.
Bearing in mind us less flexible guys may not get to that position, are we really hurting ourselves that much because it sure looked like it!
Can anyone reccommend an exercise that can be done that slowly increases turn without causing a medical injury:)

Thanks
 
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Chip Putterman

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Every golfer has a different range of motion. A body-builder who golfs will not be as flexible as a Circ-du-Soleil performer who golfs. In order for the golf club to be properly LOADED and deliver maximum energy, you must achieve a full shoulder turn. Having said that, not everyone can turn their left shoulder past the golf ball on the takeaway. I would suggest to do a search on YouTube for: shoulder turn in golf swing.
One of my favorite drills is to stand with a good posture, fold my arms and turn my LEFT shoulder past the golf ball (that is on the ground), stop for a moment, and then turn my RIGHT shoulder past the ball on the downswing. Try it out.
 
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sheps001

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Your right!

If you don't make a good shoulder turn you will not hit the ball well. This is a fundamental maxim. The real question is how to do it. Remember have good rhythm. Breathe out and be loose, ready to turn freely. Don't tighten up or you'll never make the turn. The coil occurs naturally and you'll see the club coming inside to down the line. Nice.



DeepRedCee said:
Hey guys

Was at the range the other day and I noticed something for the first time.

It seemed to me that on the backswing ALL the better players turned their left shoulder far enough to have it near/under their head area(even if they had shorter backswing)whilst the poorer ones were only turning to their left foot and were actually pointing to about 10 o'clock and to generalise therefore had much shorter quicker swings and were prone to less solid contact, height and distance.
Bearing in mind us less flexible guys may not get to that position, are we really hurting ourselves that much because it sure looked like it!
Can anyone reccommend an exercise that can be done that slowly increases turn without causing a medical injury:)

Thanks
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softconsult

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"If you don't make a good shoulder turn you will not hit the ball well."

I just don't like blanket declarations. A possibly, or a maybe thrown in there
helps get your point across.

Tell that to Dana Quigley or Allen Doyle.

It also possible that too much shoulder turn can cause other problems.

Thinking coil your core is another possible thought.
 
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puttmad

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DeepRedCee said:
Bearing in mind us less flexible guys may not get to that position, are we really hurting ourselves that much because it sure looked like it!
Can anyone reccommend an exercise that can be done that slowly increases turn without causing a medical injury:)

Thanks
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Anyone (within physical reason...:)) can make a full 90 degree shoulder turn if they allow thier right leg to straighten on the backswing and don't restrict their hip turn....

Simply extend the right leg, post it, and then rotate the left hip AROUND it....
 
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self-mastery

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I'm going to start a stretching program once I heal. I've been sidelined from life for 4 weeks with an ankle injury, and walking with a softcast has further ruined my left hip. I was testing my hamstring flexibility last night, and its horrible. I've always been able to make a big shoulder turn, but being cooped up in the house for a month has ruined my health. I think all of the b-ball I played this summer has helped me preserve some fitness... Anyway Yoga, Pilates, Weightlifting, and Recumbent Cycling when I get well.
 
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sheps001

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Point well taken, but really you do need to make a good shoulder turn, the two pro's aside. I'm sure you do, as the rest of do. Whether you do it slow or fast its pretty hard to be a consistent ball striker if you don't do it. Maybe this is the better word, good shoulder turn equals more consistent ball striking. One can overdo it and get stuck but that another story. Consistent ball striking and good shoulder turns are linked.
 
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ej20

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softconsult said:
"If you don't make a good shoulder turn you will not hit the ball well."

I just don't like blanket declarations. A possibly, or a maybe thrown in there
helps get your point across.

Tell that to Dana Quigley or Allen Doyle.

It also possible that too much shoulder turn can cause other problems.

Thinking coil your core is another possible thought.
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Doyle has virtually zero hip turn which makes it appear that he has little shoulder turn but his range of shoulder motion is quite large.

I think a big shoulder turn is a good thing provided you are flexible enough to do it comfortably.The best players of all time had big shoulder turns.

I have nothing conclusive but I suspect a big shoulder turn encourages the pivot to be more active on the downswing and less active with the arms and hands.

The average player with too little shoulder turn ends up all arms and little pivot and usually results in casting and OTT.

Some people think a big shoulder turn adds complexity but I think it's the opposite,you will have more shoulder thus pivot motion but less emphasis on arms and hands.
 
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softconsult

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Just to be clear, I was playing devil's advocate with the absolute sentence structure. Whether you call it shoulder turn, core coil, or getting behind the ball, I agree that it is important.
 
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