Shoulders @ impact?

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With regards to the NSA pattern, Brian states they should be open. I believe this applies to all patterns, but I am not positive.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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A generally accepted manzella law is for the shoulders to be open the same amount of degrees of axis tilt on the downswing.

Thus short irons require the least and the driver requires the most. However this can be modified based on the pattern (slicer might need them to be a tad more closed and a hooker might need them to be a bit more open)
 
A generally accepted manzella law is for the shoulders to be open the same amount of degrees of axis tilt on the downswing.

Thus short irons require the least and the driver requires the most. However this can be modified based on the pattern (slicer might need them to be a tad more closed and a hooker might need them to be a bit more open)

Hmmm? Maybe that's why I'm good with my irons yet hit and miss with the big stick. If I'm a hooker, when should I start opening up my shoulders. Thanks

PS If I open my stance with my driver that should help right? Thanks again
 
Hmmm? Maybe that's why I'm good with my irons yet hit and miss with the big stick. If I'm a hooker, when should I start opening up my shoulders. Thanks

PS If I open my stance with my driver that should help right? Thanks again

depends if you open your hips and shoulders with your feet
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Hmmm? Maybe that's why I'm good with my irons yet hit and miss with the big stick. If I'm a hooker, when should I start opening up my shoulders. Thanks

PS If I open my stance with my driver that should help right? Thanks again

Immediately, try to hit a bunch of pull fades then slowly bring it back to less and less open until the ball is going where you want.
 
My newest idea to try in my downswing is "left shoulder LEFT"...

Haven't fooled around with it yet but it may help with a fade.

"Left shoulder UP" has been my favourite, BTW.

Just a related little tidbit nugget piece.
 
Hey Jim,

Would you say it is common that hookers align themselves with what feels like square to the target, yet their shoulders are closed or aiming right of the target?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Hey Jim,

Would you say it is common that hookers align themselves with what feels like square to the target, yet their shoulders are closed or aiming right of the target?

yup, just like slicers being the opposite. You are subconsciously aiming more right to play the hook
 
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