So Brian, What do you teach?

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Brian Manzella

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Since I really haven't done a good explanation of this basic question, and some follow-ups, here goes...

So Brian, What do you teach?

Whatever the golfer needs to produce a good clubhead path by getting them to "draw" a straight plane line on an CLUBSHAFT angle that works for them, a CLUBFACE Action to match that path for the type of shot they want to play, and a solid downward strike of the CLUBHEAD, powered by a DYNAMIC PIVOT that gets the golfer in a top of the backswing position that fits all of the above, and an effective KINETIC CHAIN that WALLOPS the ball.

I'll use ANY GRIP, any AMOUNT and TYPE of PIVOT, PLANE SHIFTS, etc. to get the job done.

I thought you taught a "Manzella-Neutral" grip to everyone?

The very best players in golf history used a left hand grip that VERY closely matched the back of their left hand to the clubface. If you can grip it in such a way that your heel pad is on top of the grip, and your thumb is slightly behind, and it works for your PATTERN, then, I think there is some advantages to that grip.

I have argued so passionately in favor of it for a couple of reasons you may not know.

One of them is that it helps new and high-handicap golfers the most, and the new and high-handicap SLICERS even more. Nobody but me ever really made that point. Also, in TGM circles I was seeing some REALLY, REALLY strong grips that I thought were not so-called "strong single action." "Golf-like" means Hall-of-Fame like to me, and I thought I would help the community by taken an opposing view.

Would you say you teach The Golfing Machine?

Well the short answer to my the first question (above) would be I teach the THREE IMPERATIVES with an EFFECTIVE PIVOT to all. Homer Kelley would surely say that—besides my G.S.E.D. degree and my body of work supporting The Golfing Machine—would more than qualify.

Joe Daniels, the owner and President of The Golfing Machine agrees. I am sure you could find people who don't.

At the end of the day, what I teach is The Manzella Matrix, my own METHOD for getting golfers to quickly improve their swings toward the goal of "The THREE IMPERATIVES with an EFFECTIVE PIVOT," and then perfecting their TOTALLY CUSTOMIZED PATTERNS to the best of their abilities.

I think my stuff is superior to anything else in golf, and I think my LIVE LESSON ability is second to none in golf.

What do you think about people who use The Golfing Machine as a "how-to" book, favor a couple of patterns and quote the book chapter and verse?

I think that Ben Doyle, my teacher, does something like that. He uses his chip-picth-punch method with every student, and has a preferred pattern he tries for. Ben also loves the terminology. And I think Ben is great and does a tremendous job.

The others that use the book as a how-to manual are doing their best. Good for them.

I just feel like what I am doing is superior to anything else in golf.

Why do you feel like your stuff is the best?

Because it is the most inclusive, it utilizes advances made in "golf science" since Homer passed in 1983, it is the most researched, and the most tested in real-world conditions.

While other teachers like Haney, Harmon and others, are trying to prove their stuff is better through their tour players, I know MY stuff is better, because it is based on swings that ARE working and HAVE worked at that level.

Plus, in LIVE LESSONS, there really is no one who even tries to do what I do.

Everyone is selling a restrictive method, or is selling something based on "what if."

Also, my unique experience of having to COMPETE for lessons for 20+ years, and my TOTAL DISDAIN for anything but just about 100% success rate with my students, has made me, and continues to make me REFINE MY STUFF.

It is getting so polished it is scary, but I know I have a long way to go, because I teach 25% better than I did a year ago. And not just better teaching, better STUFF, more STUFF, better understanding. Better period.

:eek:

:)
 
Commercially successful vs. practical application

If a golf pro wants to really make it in the market today. The best thing to do is to analyze what the current fads or trends in the golf swing are and go 180* in the opposite direction. If their swinging left, you teach swing right. The flatter looking arm swing...nope Go as vertical as possible. The hanging on the left side pivot...sway off that ball like Ballard. And so on and so on.

The problem is that no matter how much you know "orthodox" doesn't sell, at least not to the masses. Now it's going to help a large percentage of the golfers that go that way, but unfortunately most golfers don't want to "Do it Right".

What Brian teaches is right...and if its wrong he's going to figure out why its wrong and he'll fix it. It's a shame that more people know who AJ Bonar and David Leadbetter are than people like Brian Manzella and David Orr. I know the whole timing and paying your dues thing, but still, it's a shame that people don't want "the truth" they want "the quick fix", "the new gimmick". I gurantee you the people that look at Brian's stuff vs. the people who for instance buy Hardy's DVD's ...A much higher percentage are going to stay with Brian than keep following their "new" method. Why, because "hall of fame" imperatives and dynamics will always trump the "swing du jour" and some odd ball position or feel that gets marketed to the masses.

We don't know how good we've got it...
 
If a golf pro wants to really make it in the market today. The best thing to do is to analyze what the current fads or trends in the golf swing are and go 180* in the opposite direction. If their swinging left, you teach swing right. The flatter looking arm swing...nope Go as vertical as possible. The hanging on the left side pivot...sway off that ball like Ballard. And so on and so on.

The problem is that no matter how much you know "orthodox" doesn't sell, at least not to the masses. Now it's going to help a large percentage of the golfers that go that way, but unfortunately most golfers don't want to "Do it Right".

What Brian teaches is right...and if its wrong he's going to figure out why its wrong and he'll fix it. It's a shame that more people know who AJ Bonar and David Leadbetter are than people like Brian Manzella and David Orr. I know the whole timing and paying your dues thing, but still, it's a shame that people don't want "the truth" they want "the quick fix", "the new gimmick". I gurantee you the people that look at Brian's stuff vs. the people who for instance buy Hardy's DVD's ...A much higher percentage are going to stay with Brian than keep following their "new" method. Why, because "hall of fame" imperatives and dynamics will always trump the "swing du jour" and some odd ball position or feel that gets marketed to the masses.

We don't know how good we've got it...



I agree, but i think Brian will even tell you that Hardy knows how to teach. Is Hardy right about everything? No, but its more in line than most Pop teachers out there.
 
If a golf pro wants to really make it in the market today. The best thing to do is to analyze what the current fads or trends in the golf swing are and go 180* in the opposite direction. If their swinging left, you teach swing right. The flatter looking arm swing...nope Go as vertical as possible. The hanging on the left side pivot...sway off that ball like Ballard. And so on and so on.

The problem is that no matter how much you know "orthodox" doesn't sell, at least not to the masses. Now it's going to help a large percentage of the golfers that go that way, but unfortunately most golfers don't want to "Do it Right".

What Brian teaches is right...and if its wrong he's going to figure out why its wrong and he'll fix it. It's a shame that more people know who AJ Bonar and David Leadbetter are than people like Brian Manzella and David Orr. I know the whole timing and paying your dues thing, but still, it's a shame that people don't want "the truth" they want "the quick fix", "the new gimmick". I gurantee you the people that look at Brian's stuff vs. the people who for instance buy Hardy's DVD's ...A much higher percentage are going to stay with Brian than keep following their "new" method. Why, because "hall of fame" imperatives and dynamics will always trump the "swing du jour" and some odd ball position or feel that gets marketed to the masses.

We don't know how good we've got it...


I do. I won't rehash my story again, but I like the ability to hit a 209 yard 4 iron and cut it (hold it up) against the wind. :cool:
 
I Love Hardy's CD's

They bring excellent humor to my day. I get some hysterical questions. Some of my members waste their money on this "Style Du Jour." They are bent over more, try and round out their swing (which I like, in most cases) and still take a divot behind the ball:)

I haven't had this much fun since Natural Golf....there was one other, some dude who taught a cross-handed, reverse right hand....you had to see it to believe it.

Brian, you have big stones to say you are the best, but I can appreciate your belief in your abilities. Keep going, you'll be 25% better next year.
 
I do. I won't rehash my story again, but I like the ability to hit a 209 yard 4 iron and cut it (hold it up) against the wind. :cool:

I prefer my 225 yard 5 iron...

Brian needs a gimmick: "Better golf in 9 secs," "scratch golf in an hour," "One secret move."

Then he could draw the clubface on the back of folks left hand and do card tricks...
 
an effective KINETIC CHAIN that WALLOPS the ball

Brian,
Zelocity says that my kinetic chain is off, that my arms are out racing my hips. They advise more resistance in the back swing and a quicker lower body transition.
Any words of advice (besides heading to Louisville)?
I will see you in Louisville soon.
Good Luck in New Orleans this week!
 

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I don't know beyond what I've read in this forum and what I've seen in a number of Brian's videos. I cannot wait until I meet Brian in person for a series of lessons!
 

Brian Manzella

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an effective KINETIC CHAIN that WALLOPS the ball

Brian,
Zelocity says that my kinetic chain is off, that my arms are out racing my hips. They advise more resistance in the back swing and a quicker lower body transition.
Any words of advice (besides heading to Louisville)?
I will see you in Louisville soon.
Good Luck in New Orleans this week!

Your arms are outracing your hips????

Yikes!:eek:

Here are a couple of things to try:

1. Turn your left heel WAY out at address, and hit some shots. You'll either have more snap or try..

2. Close your stance a bunch, but not your hips or shoulders. You'll either do better, or try...

3. Set-up VERY OPEN, ala Lee Buck Trevino. Believe it or not, sometimes THis will TELL YOUR BODY to snap the chain.

If that doesn't try, Different Strokes has 45,000 balls and LOTS of perfect bermuda. :D
 
"my arms out racing my hips" that does sound scary doesn't it. It's amazing that I can even hit it I know. The feedback I got from Zelocity shows essentially that I could probably generate my 155 mph ball speed swinigng on ice. I don't use the ground enough to create power. In my quest to keep up with the 175 mph college kids I've created an uperbody arm dominated swing. Thank god my hands are somewhat educated!
I'll work on your ideas this afternoon.
Thanks for the help.
 
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