"Soar Like An Eagle" by Louie Bellson

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Rick Dandy

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Louie Bellson, July 6, 1924 – February 14, 2009

Remembering his Valentine's Day passing.

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Enjoy it baby and add one.

PS Uncle Louie was cool.
 
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The double bass pioneer! A true Mack Daddy, lovin it Rick! The drumming world owes this cat a lot, sorely missed.

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1957 Skin Deep Solo

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and what jazz is...

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Sophisticated primal drum beating and tapping and clashing ... not exactly Bach or Beethoven... but loved Bellson's solo cadenzas ....;)

Those three dudes on clarinet, trumpet and sax look like they are classically trained and may be in a symphony orchestra too... because they are technically proficient with their instruments... and they even wear symphony orchestra suits. Few ever achieve that level of artistry without methodical classical training. Now that dude on the piano is classically trained... believe it.

Sort of like the difference between a feeel golfswing and a scientifical golfswing ... feeel drumming and scientifical instruments.

Jazz is structured improvisation... where feeelings are paramount .... so feeel golf is jazz and scientific golf is symphony ... ya think???
 
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Louie's Dad gave him his first drum lesson at the age of three. Just the word science can carry a bit of intimidation to some, but really it's about understanding and knowledge. Eventually the call to adventure brought about in him the efforts to go out of the home he knew.

I believe the first word to learn is synergy. Synergy is the behavior of whole systems unpredicted by the behavior of their parts.

It's wonderful to see a jazz group improvise, be tuned in. They can't go wrong. Even though they never did it that way before.

I spent some time with Seve in 1988 and 1989. A player so proportioned that he put you at peace. That's what great jazz does.

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I knew of this kid who was a prodigy drummer. Played with and wowed Joe Morello at 6, on TV at 7 narrowly losing to a 27 year singer in an adult talent show. His drum instructor was scared to death he'd mess up his hands with his second love, football.

What ever happened to that kid?
 
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Two of my favorites....

The Italian Stallion at age 3, yes I already had a "trap set."

And, me and Jackson Finney, when he was really little, getting his first lesson on my old Tamas that went bye-bye in the Great Flood of ought-5.

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The guys on clarinet, trumpet and sax were not classically trained. You can look them up:

Don Menza - Tenor Sax
Buddy DeFranco - Clarinet
Conte Candoli - Trumpet

I wonder how these guys did it, not being scientifically tranined and all. They do look good in their 'symphony orchestra suits' though. Where I come from we call them tuxedos. Are you still having fun with us Steve?
 
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SteveT

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@ Tony D'Antonio:

From Wikipedia biographies:

Don Menza was born and raised in Buffalo, New York, where he began playing tenor saxophone when he was 13. He studied saxophone with musician and teacher John Sedola.

Buddy DeFranco and Conte Candoli ... unknown early musical training.


If they were trained to read music, they are classically trained. If they only play by ear, they usually don't get very far.

Do you have other sources on these jazz musicians?
 
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Tony D'Antonio

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Google will have plenty of info on DeFranco and Candoli.
These guys were all jazz musicians from early ages. They were part of bands, not classical orchestras, from early ages.

I can't find any definition that says classical music training is based on learning to read music.

I feel like I'm going down one of those paths where we will be going back and forth about very vague and unimportant concepts. I think you need to give the science stuff a rest but only you can make that call. I'm going to bed knowing that these guys were/are great musicians and that science and the classics had very little to do with it. Good night Steve.
 
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Brian Manzella said:
Two of my favorites....

The Italian Stallion at age 3, yes I already had a "trap set."

And, me and Jackson Finney, when he was really little, getting his first lesson on my old Tamas that went bye-bye in the Great Flood of ought-5.

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Nice Crescent City Classic poster! Had to show my Pops, he's got it too. Were you able to salvage it?
 
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