Soft Draw takeaway

[joeunc]

I re-watched it over the weekend. Hadn't seen it in about a year or so.
I have struggled lately with sucking the club around me on the backswing and over rotation of the left arm flying wedge too soon. This has caused me to get OTT some to get back down to the ball. After looking at the SD takeaway, what are some good things to think of or drill on to make sure I don't get that club behind me too soon and over-rotated. It would seem that with the SD takeaway and those hands staying so close, you have to be careful not to get too far inside.
I have been really trying to think "more" straight back at startup to avoid sucking it back and over-rotating....


Any help is appreciated.

thanks
Joe

 

[holeout]

Keep the right arm higher than the left. That prevents the over-rotation while keeping the hands inside going back.

 

[joeunc]

yep i saw that. That's the challenge when for so long you have been trying for that right elbow pointing down and collapsed at the top of the backswing.
When I try to keep that right arm higher, it feels like I am trying to fight that right elbow from becoming from a flying right elbow.

 

[holeout]

yep i saw that. That's the challenge when for so long you have been trying for that right elbow pointing down and collapsed at the top of the backswing.
When I try to keep that right arm higher, it feels like I am trying to fight that right elbow from becoming from a flying right elbow.

Flying right elbow is ok! Worked for Jack .

Go give it a try and report back.

 

[lookingtolearn]

I re-watched it over the weekend. Hadn't seen it in about a year or so.
I have struggled lately with sucking the club around me on the backswing and over rotation of the left arm flying wedge too soon. This has caused me to get OTT some to get back down to the ball. After looking at the SD takeaway, what are some good things to think of or drill on to make sure I don't get that club behind me too soon and over-rotated. It would seem that with the SD takeaway and those hands staying so close, you have to be careful not to get too far inside.
I have been really trying to think "more" straight back at startup to avoid sucking it back and over-rotating....


Any help is appreciated.

thanks
Joe

Do you know how to do the "club on the waist" drill?

 

[joeunc]

Do you know how to do the "club on the waist" drill?

I saw it briefly in that vid of Brian's lesson last week. Clubshaft grip end outside your right hip and grip down on the club. It wasn't clear from there on the vid when you turned what you were trying to do and what should be pointed where etc..Would love to have it detalied.

I had been trying for a turned shoulder plane backswing, along the lines of this youtube drill:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ilWfVInsHo&feature=channel[/media]

thanks
Joe

 

[jenhaoyen]

I saw it briefly in that vid of Brian's lesson last week. Clubshaft grip end outside your right hip and grip down on the club. It wasn't clear from there on the vid when you turned what you were trying to do and what should be pointed where etc..Would love to have it detalied.

I had been trying for a turned shoulder plane backswing, along the lines of this youtube drill:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ilWfVInsHo&feature=channel[/media]

thanks
Joe

looks like very open and flat around the body?

 

[lookingtolearn]

I saw it briefly in that vid of Brian's lesson last week. Clubshaft grip end outside your right hip and grip down on the club. It wasn't clear from there on the vid when you turned what you were trying to do and what should be pointed where etc..Would love to have it detalied.

You want to get the club off your waist as soon as possible, and then point the club at the target. You can also exaggerate the second part by pointing the club out to rightfield (if being more across the line helps you).

 

[joeunc]

will try some of this after work, just from doing it imagining holding the club that way and doing the motion, it does seem that it would help you really not over pronate that left arm on the backswing

 

[holeout]

I saw it briefly in that vid of Brian's lesson last week. Clubshaft grip end outside your right hip and grip down on the club. It wasn't clear from there on the vid when you turned what you were trying to do and what should be pointed where etc..Would love to have it detalied.

I had been trying for a turned shoulder plane backswing, along the lines of this youtube drill:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ilWfVInsHo&feature=channel[/media]

thanks
Joe

That is an awful video. His left arm wedge is so over-rotated its a joke. I'd guess 50% of his "students" hit a shank when they first try that. He's just another Hogan copier.

The club on the waist drill keeps your left arm from getting over rotated. At the top the club should point slightly to the right of your target (so-called across the line). The butt end of the club could be said to point somewhere along your "toe line," if that term helps you. It should be well inside your target/plane line.

 

[cnadon]

could you spell this out?

You want to get the club off your waist as soon as possible, and then point the club at the target. You can also exaggerate the second part by pointing the club out to rightfield (if being more across the line helps you).

I'm still not able to visualize what you mean by the club off the waist drill. Could you elaborate a bit more? Thanks.

 

[joeunc]

on like page2 or 3 of the board, look for the thread called happy customer or something like that. It's video of Brian with a student doing a lesson wrapup and he touches on it briefly. That video and the text in this thread should help you out.

I'm still not able to visualize what you mean by the club off the waist drill. Could you elaborate a bit more? Thanks.

 

[vjsinger]

Brian has a video of me doing the drill from our lesson last week. If he doesn't see this and post it up in the next couple of days, I'll put a video up of what it looks like. Don't listen to, or try to do anything in that video you posted.

 

[joeunc]

That would be great if you could post the video of you actually working on that drill. One can only get so much from text descriptions.

thanks

Brian has a video of me doing the drill from our lesson last week. If he doesn't see this and post it up in the next couple of days, I'll put a video up of what it looks like. Don't listen to, or try to do anything in that video you posted.