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curtisj76
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I know, it's just that there's absolutely no discussion about it anymore. Makes me think there's something "new and better" out there somewhere, or it could be tweaked a bit to improve it. Brian? Kevin? Jim? Etc.?
WoodbridgeGolf37
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It's funny you should start this thread - as I was just re-watching SD for literally the 10th time.
I was having tremendous success with my driver yesterday utilizing a LCT, but couldn't hit my irons anywhere near their intended target: all pulls and pull hooks. I was hoping that SD would have a tidbit that I overlooked before that would provide that "a-ha" moment. I find that everytime I watch it I learn something new - or maybe it's that I fnally understand what Brian was saying after hanging out here for 2+ years.
I was having tremendous success with my driver yesterday utilizing a LCT, but couldn't hit my irons anywhere near their intended target: all pulls and pull hooks. I was hoping that SD would have a tidbit that I overlooked before that would provide that "a-ha" moment. I find that everytime I watch it I learn something new - or maybe it's that I fnally understand what Brian was saying after hanging out here for 2+ years.
Jim Kobylinski
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Just like anything, it's "a" pattern. Use it if it gets you results you like. Hell i have pretty much settled on Never Hook Again for my pattern for basically forever. No matter what i do when i go back to it, it's like that first baseball glove you ever owned; just fits me right.
Matt Bryda
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I like to think of the SD pattern as the pattern in mind when working with someone on NSA components and they are getting it.
But they may not need to go all the way to SD.
But they may not need to go all the way to SD.
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JesseV
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Tried SD today for first time. I was awful and then my whole swing, which is gawd awful to begin with fell apart.
I've been working on Basic Motion and acquired motion to educate my hands and to get a flat left wrist. Been doing this diligently for the last week. Have also changed my grip to the one Hogan describes in his book. My shots had been somewhat straight with a few hooks, and very few fades but nothing bad like today.
I started as a slicer, now a huge hooker most of the time. Today trying the SD I was back to a slice or lets be kind and call it a soft fade. On yeah, plenty of hooks and OTT Pulls along with the dreaded s***ks thrown in to crush my enthusiasm even further. Now I know this is not the fault of SD. I've obviously got some major swing flaws and I don't know what I'm doing right or wrong any longer and I refuse to go to the cookie cutter instructor. Of course I can't afford the Butch Harmons or Brian Manzella's either.
I have to be honest it seems I take one step forward and three back. I'm very frustrated.
Wish I could afford to go see Brian, but the trip to Louisiana and lessons would be way out of my budget. Know any good affordable instructors in the Kennesaw, GA, Woodstock, Ga area?
I've been working on Basic Motion and acquired motion to educate my hands and to get a flat left wrist. Been doing this diligently for the last week. Have also changed my grip to the one Hogan describes in his book. My shots had been somewhat straight with a few hooks, and very few fades but nothing bad like today.
I started as a slicer, now a huge hooker most of the time. Today trying the SD I was back to a slice or lets be kind and call it a soft fade. On yeah, plenty of hooks and OTT Pulls along with the dreaded s***ks thrown in to crush my enthusiasm even further. Now I know this is not the fault of SD. I've obviously got some major swing flaws and I don't know what I'm doing right or wrong any longer and I refuse to go to the cookie cutter instructor. Of course I can't afford the Butch Harmons or Brian Manzella's either.
I have to be honest it seems I take one step forward and three back. I'm very frustrated.
Wish I could afford to go see Brian, but the trip to Louisiana and lessons would be way out of my budget. Know any good affordable instructors in the Kennesaw, GA, Woodstock, Ga area?
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curtisj76
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If I were you I would honestly start up a new thread. Copy and paste what you just wrote along with a video. Plenty of trained eyes can hopefully offer some good tips for you.
Shot Limit
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If it ever worked, it should still work, right? Personally, I never really considered it to be a "scientific" instruction video, just didn't look at it that way. You still basically use the feels to learn the pattern and feels can be interpreted all sorts of ways. Science is the why and the feels and movements is SD are the how. It seems to me that it's more of the why's that are being updated with the research and not so much the how to's. JMIO, for what it's worth.
Matt, would be interested to know how you start to transition someone from NSA to SD, but not all the way? I though SD was more of a full pattern, rather than a set of components like NSA.
You can absolutely match up SD backswing with NHA downswing. I'm sure there have been some posts about that before.
Matt Bryda
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Sometimes the draw components introduced can get the path more to the right and all the way to 1 yard right and sometimes not.
Jim Kobylinski
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What gave you the idea that NSA isn't a full fledged pattern? I use it all the time and why would you necessarily transition someone from NSA to SD?
I probably could have chosen my words better. Clearly NSA is a pattern, but my understanding (which may well be wrong) is that it is made up from numerous components and you may not need all of them. I also thought that with SD you pretty much need to do all of it. Matt's earlier post seemed to suggest there is some middle ground and I was interested to know what it is, and which components from both patterns you can match up successfully.
Sorry Matt but I'm not sure I follow. Are you just saying that adding in certain SD components to a NSA pattern moves the path more right?
Matt Bryda
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Sure, once a slicer learns to square up the face.
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