Spine Angle... again !

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bergsey

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Hey guys, even after reviewing Brian's great video answer he did for me on spine angle i'm still struggling to get rid of the 'standing up' move in my downswing. Tried different posture, planes, pivots and everything but can't find the root cause to kill this beast

This is the latest video of the example http://members.iinet.net.au/~jds072/7 iron DTL.avi

This time getting closer but only by making a bit an exaggerated reverse shift swing - http://members.iinet.net.au/~jds072/7i DTL Practice.avi

Face on shows i'm getting my hands ahead of the club ok at impact but this standing up is causing me a lot of inconsistency

Any help appreciated especially those who have been there and done that!

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golfbulldog

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Your address posture seems very bent over and the distribution of the weight in your feet must be towards the toes - no??

I know Brian likes a bent over posture ( relatively bent over compared to the overly upright posture of some)... it looks like you spine is going where it needs to be to allow you to hit the ball. If you get the spine where it needs to be at address then it will move less - i think!... Also your left elbow looks a bit bent at address... maybe problems with setting your radius?? If at address your spine is to bent over and your left elbow is bent.... well at impact the left elbow will be straight... need to make some room to prevent hitting fat... so your spine moves to where it needs to be... hence the standing up...


maybe.... but basically needs an impact fix refresher IMO.

Wait and see what Brian, Jim and others say!!!

You are on plane and FLW on downswing so just needs to be realigned?? maybe.... so easy to say these things .... but so hard to know if they are correct!!
 
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Hi there,

From someone who has been there and done that.

I concur with GBD that your posture looks too bent over for a 7i. It looks more like what I would have for my wedges. The likely cause for this is what appears to be a bent lower spine and a cocked left wrist at address. I think Brian had posted some picture of past greats where the butt end of the club points somewhere at the belt buckle or higher. Try at address to get your wrists more level.

The left elbow looks bent in an odd sort of way but I am not sure if that's due to any physical limitations.

Also, for my case it helps if I solve my swing problems in a sequencial order starting from address to takeaway, top of backswing, transition, downswing/release, impact, follow-though and finish. Right now the address position looks like it can be improved.

Let's see what the pros have to say.

cheers,

daniel
 
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Brian Manzella

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Set-up Posture....and water on wood....no good.

You address needs to be addressed.

If you set-up that bent over, with your hands on the "hands only" plane, and then make a single shift-like move coming down on the Turned Shoulder Plane, you HAVE TO RAISE UP, or else bend your arms.

Got it?

So...the only reasopn the second is "better" is the shift to the elbow plane requires less LIFT UP of your forward torso tilt.
 
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Manzella-ized!

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bergsey

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I think i'm with you..

Brian Manzella said:
You address needs to be addressed.

If you set-up that bent over, with your hands on the "hands only" plane, and then make a single shift-like move coming down on the Turned Shoulder Plane, you HAVE TO RAISE UP, or else bend your arms.

Got it?

So...the only reasopn the second is "better" is the shift to the elbow plane requires less LIFT UP of your forward torso tilt.
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So you are saying that i need to be more upright at address to match up my more upright downswing? :confused: i.e. setting the clubshaft on the same angle at address as it will be at impact.. with my hands a lot higher?
 
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There's Hertz, and there's not exactly....

bergsey said:
So you are saying that i need to be more upright at address to match up my more upright downswing? :confused: i.e. setting the clubshaft on the same angle at address as it will be at impact.. with my hands a lot higher?
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The hands are still not on the TSP at address and shouldn't be.

But there is now ROOM for a TSP downswing.

PLUS!!

The set-up looks more like a golfer!! :D
 
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Dustin

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Quick semi-non related question. See how the right arm seams well below or inside of the left at address. Is this an ok way to set up? I've often hit the ball well with a similar set up, but often felt it was incorrect. Any help guys?
 
bergsey

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Thanks Brian... again !!

Brian Manzella said:
The hands are still not on the TSP at address and shouldn't be.

But there is now ROOM for a TSP downswing.

PLUS!!

The set-up looks more like a golfer!! :D
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Thanks Brian, i'll work on that address.... seems a lot better idea than to suddenly change to a double shift type swing down the elbow plane.

BTW is swinging down the turned shoulder plane a good thing or bad? is it a compensation move or is it a case of if that's your natural tendency then set up for it and go for it?

I could see most other teachers wanting to change it
 
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