Spinning the Ball
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Richie3Jack
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It starts with the ball and the greens. I cannot imagine somebody backing up a Pinnacle or a Molitor anytime soon unless the greens are in primo shape and there's an upslope of the green on the approach shot and the fairway grass is in primo shape as well.
It's not that big of a deal. I can spin the ball with ease (provided I'm on a decent course) if I want to, but there's rarely an advantage to it. Duval spinned one off the green today, it's more of how a shot plays than trying to do it to gain an advantage. Sort of like hitting a driver down the right side on a fairway that slopes quite a bit right to left. They are not actively trying to get the ball to roll down the left, they are just playing the slope.
3JACK
It's not that big of a deal. I can spin the ball with ease (provided I'm on a decent course) if I want to, but there's rarely an advantage to it. Duval spinned one off the green today, it's more of how a shot plays than trying to do it to gain an advantage. Sort of like hitting a driver down the right side on a fairway that slopes quite a bit right to left. They are not actively trying to get the ball to roll down the left, they are just playing the slope.
3JACK
It'd be great if it were that simple...
I don't mean this to be offensive at all, because I love your enthusiasm for the game that you display on the forum. But if you hit "out" at all with a wedge, you're going to have a very hard time getting any spin on the ball other than a hook. Trust me.
Now if the feel of hitting out on a wedge works for you, great! But in reality, there ain't NOBODY that hits their wedges worth a damn that has any kind of actual "out" with their clubhead at impact.
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Even if you hit the V1 instead of the v1x? Or the new Callaway softer/higher spin ball?
Greens really do matter. I play a v1x and expect I won't back the ball up the ball on the greens at my course (well stuck irons stay fairly close to pitch mark if I use v1x rather than V1), but then I've gone to other courses and then backed up the ball much, much more than I expected.
Even if you hit the V1 instead of the v1x? Or the new Callaway softer/higher spin ball?
Greens really do matter. I play a v1x and expect I won't back the ball up the ball on the greens at my course (well stuck irons stay fairly close to pitch mark if I use v1x rather than V1), but then I've gone to other courses and then backed up the ball much, much more than I expected.
I would rather have that than spin back 10 foot really.
I have always found hit a crisp iron and it will spin. Soft greens bounce out of the ball mark and stop...... firmer greens spin back 10 foot or so in front of ball mark........hard greens skid and release about 10 foot.
the pros clubhead speed is much higher and this helps generate a ton of spin. that and the fact their balls are loads softer, their grooves are loads sharper, the greens they play are much quicker and the fairways they play off are almost certainly in a better condition than the ones you and me play on means they can get some serios back up.
i heard mickelson says he deliberatley hits pitch shots fat to try and get rid of some of the spin
i heard mickelson says he deliberatley hits pitch shots fat to try and get rid of some of the spin
mjstrong
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straight from the horse's mouth...
His wedge's grind also helps accomodate the slightly fat contact.
His wedge's grind also helps accomodate the slightly fat contact.
swingobsessed
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In his short game video he claims the lob shot is a fat shot. Said he purposely hits it fat to hit lobs off of tight lies.
Kevin Shields
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I think he said he looks fat while hitting lob shots.
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