palmreader
New
Anyone has good drill or recommendation for squaring club face at impact during downswing? Sometimes, I don't rotate arms enough and leave the club face open (Did someone say slice...). Thanks
Squaring Club Face at Impact
- Thread starter palmreader
- Start date
- Status
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
one arm wedge shots that draw...
palmreader
New
Jim, Can you please elaborate the one arm wedge shot? Should the arms be rotated from the shoulder socket from the top of back swing(as Mike Austin instruction says), or should it only be a forearm rotation? Thanks in advance....
palmreader
New
Balls..., I have done that but you can still maintain the towel in position without getting the full forearm rotation in to impact...
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
Sure
Setup to the ball as normal then:
-take right hand off club
-simply turn your forearm to the plane
-cock your left wrist up the plane
-keep your left arm in that position and let it fall right back down the plane (just as it was when your turned to the plane above)
-then simply let it roll back to impact to hit the ball
You have to ingrain the feeling of the sequenced release:
uncock then roll
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
Has nothing to do with squaring the face up at impact.
palmreader
New
Jim,
Thanks a bunch. One more simple question. In the fourth step above, you said "simply let it rollback to impact". I assume I should unc**k simultaneously as I rollback to impact. Am I correct?
Doesn't right hand play any role in this sequence (I mean during the real swing)?
CrimsonMKII
New
I would be interested in a video clip of this if anyone has it. Often it takes me weeks or months to visualize something properly let alone ingrain it to swing memory.
Trying to fix a nasty slice!
Trying to fix a nasty slice!
palmreader
New
Crimson, This has been a big problem for me lately. It developed because I was trying maintain lag during the down swing. In doing so, I have develop a tendency to not roll the arm in to impact. I have a video from Mike Austin (Golf Is Mental Imagery, or GIMI), in which he clearly advocate to start rotating the arm from the top fo the back swing. He says it will be too late if you wait to start rolling the arms until the hands fall to waist level. I know that part is true because I am going through that mess now, and leaving the club face open. Hope Jim or Brian can do a little video clip on this
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
that's because he was more of a hitter and used the paddle-wheel motion that Homer Kelly describes in the book.
If you are swinging there really isn't a reason why you can't let the face square, centrifugal force DOES IT FOR YOU!
IF, you allow it to. That's the trick.
I don't have anything to do a video on it. If i did i'd love to show everyone.
"If you are swinging there really isn't a reason why you can't let the face square, centrifugal force DOES IT FOR YOU!
IF, you allow it to. That's the trick."
I have found this to be true, question becomes how come the majority cant do it? Is it because of understanding? Is it because of the way things are explained ( i guess that comes back to understanding)?
Isn't it true, for us to let centrifugal force square the face, the wrist, have to be COMPLETELY relaxed? If there is ANY tension to impede the action, its going to affect the face motion.
Now lets look at what Palmreader said, he was trying to maintain lag, that says his wrist weren't completely relaxed.
If the wrist stayed relaxed, the lag would be there wouldn't it? There is no need to do something to hold/maintain/create lag as long as we don't do something to lose lag, like flip, correct?
Brian and a few others has used the statement "straighten the REAR arm without straightening the rear wrist", but shouldn't we add we do this be keeping the rear wrist LOOSE, letting the club head hold it bent. If we intentionally freeze the rear wrist, we are going to have face alignment problems.
IF, you allow it to. That's the trick."
I have found this to be true, question becomes how come the majority cant do it? Is it because of understanding? Is it because of the way things are explained ( i guess that comes back to understanding)?
Isn't it true, for us to let centrifugal force square the face, the wrist, have to be COMPLETELY relaxed? If there is ANY tension to impede the action, its going to affect the face motion.
Now lets look at what Palmreader said, he was trying to maintain lag, that says his wrist weren't completely relaxed.
If the wrist stayed relaxed, the lag would be there wouldn't it? There is no need to do something to hold/maintain/create lag as long as we don't do something to lose lag, like flip, correct?
Brian and a few others has used the statement "straighten the REAR arm without straightening the rear wrist", but shouldn't we add we do this be keeping the rear wrist LOOSE, letting the club head hold it bent. If we intentionally freeze the rear wrist, we are going to have face alignment problems.
palmreader
New
Jim, Thanks. Really you think MA is a hitter. Look at this clip from the Peaceriver video
http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/austin.htm
Most digital cameras can record a video clips, if you have a one. I will post a request in Brian's video answer area and see if he can do it next time he goes crazy and do 30 more clips
cdog, you hit the nail right on the head...I have been hitting balls great about 3 months back, decent distance crisp shots etc, then I got thr bright idea if I keep lag more in to downswing I could squeez few more yards (neverending story about distance). SO, I got an impact bag, try to learn to keep the hand way in front with flat left wrist etc. Now what happen is I keep the lag way in to down swing, then there is not enough time to square the club face, I drag the head across the ball with open face and hit weak slices. Game had gone down the toilet.. I am trying to go back to basic and re-educate what I have been doing 3 months back. By trying to maintain more lag, I may be inducing stress in the wrist, and it refuse to roatate square in to impact under the centrifugal force
Just think about it. How could one maintain lag without stressing the wrist?
http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/austin.htm
Most digital cameras can record a video clips, if you have a one. I will post a request in Brian's video answer area and see if he can do it next time he goes crazy and do 30 more clips
cdog, you hit the nail right on the head...I have been hitting balls great about 3 months back, decent distance crisp shots etc, then I got thr bright idea if I keep lag more in to downswing I could squeez few more yards (neverending story about distance
). SO, I got an impact bag, try to learn to keep the hand way in front with flat left wrist etc. Now what happen is I keep the lag way in to down swing, then there is not enough time to square the club face, I drag the head across the ball with open face and hit weak slices. Game had gone down the toilet.. I am trying to go back to basic and re-educate what I have been doing 3 months back. By trying to maintain more lag, I may be inducing stress in the wrist, and it refuse to roatate square in to impact under the centrifugal forceJust think about it. How could one maintain lag without stressing the wrist?
quote:Originally posted by palmreader
Jim, Thanks. Really you think MA is a hitter. Look at this clip from the Peaceriver video
http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/austin.htm
Most digital cameras can record a video clips, if you have a one. I will post a request in Brian's video answer area and see if he can do it next time he goes crazy and do 30 more clips
cdog, you hit the nail right on the head...I have been hitting balls great about 3 months back, decent distance crisp shots etc, then I got thr bright idea if I keep lag more in to downswing I could squeez few more yards (neverending story about distance
Just think about it. How could one maintain lag without stressing the wrist?
Palmreader,
I think I developed a similar problem which was the result of too much tilt (resulting too far forward aiming point). Solution - deliver PP#3 to the ball while pulling hard with the left shoulder. Lag all you can.
Golfie
palmreader
New
Golfie, Thanks. I will try it. Should I keep the tilt while delivering the PP3 to the ball or reduce the tilt somewhat...??
palmreader
New
Have you guys seen the 3 video correspondence (Tom and Lee Dietrich with Tom Tomasello) on Lynn's site? In the third one, Tom discusses this problem (leaving the club face open and how to avoid it). I encourage those who have this problem to view those 3 videos.
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
It's hard because everyone is always wanting to do something with their hands. When you learn how to simply aim your hands and keep a flat left wrist and a bent right wrist it's not hard to do at all.
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
quote:Originally posted by palmreader
Jim, Thanks. Really you think MA is a hitter. Look at this clip from the Peaceriver video
http://www.peacerivergolf.com/clips/learn/austin.htm
Most digital cameras can record a video clips, if you have a one. I will post a request in Brian's video answer area and see if he can do it next time he goes crazy and do 30 more clips
cdog, you hit the nail right on the head...I have been hitting balls great about 3 months back, decent distance crisp shots etc, then I got thr bright idea if I keep lag more in to downswing I could squeez few more yards (neverending story about distance
Just think about it. How could one maintain lag without stressing the wrist?
Maybe he swung, maybe he hit, to be honest he was such a huge big strong guy i'm sure he was some sort of 4 barrel guy.
Either way everything i've read about austin this / dunaway this its all about using your right side and throwing the club into the ball just like a hitter.
- Status