Steep in Transition and Path

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Can one be steep in the transition and still have a rightward path?

A few years ago I was a slicer and was way steep. I hit quite a few draws these days, so I was surprised at a lesson recently to see on video that my downswing still looked quite steep. Instructor said I needed a shade of twistaway and needed to swing more to the right, and I'm just not sure if this is the cure I need.
 

lia41985

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Too steep to too shallow and close the face with a "flip." I'd imagine that's not an infrequent pattern of movement in recreational golf.
 
Can one be steep in the transition and still have a rightward path?

A few years ago I was a slicer and was way steep. I hit quite a few draws these days, so I was surprised at a lesson recently to see on video that my downswing still looked quite steep. Instructor said I needed a shade of twistaway and needed to swing more to the right, and I'm just not sure if this is the cure I need.

Oh indeed, you can definitely be steep with rightward path. Very common.
 

ej20

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Too steep in transition is a fault.Two things can happen.You can stay steep all the way to impact,hit slices and pulls and be known as OTT.

The better player learns to shallow out into impact but then you have the opposite problem of being underplane.Pushes and hooks are the result.
 
Thanks guys. Yes, my misses tend to be pushes and hooks; more pushes or push fades with the drivers (with the occasional pop up when I over accelerate), and hooks with the irons. Definitely a flip in there too. The instructor said I tend to tip the shaft out to the ball late in the downswing in an attempt to square the face. Any thoughts on how to shallow in transition better?
 
Thanks guys. Yes, my misses tend to be pushes and hooks; more pushes or push fades with the drivers (with the occasional pop up when I over accelerate), and hooks with the irons. Definitely a flip in there too. The instructor said I tend to tip the shaft out to the ball late in the downswing in an attempt to square the face. Any thoughts on how to shallow in transition better?

Usually caused by across the line at the top. Steep shaft shallow angle.
 

ej20

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Thanks guys. Yes, my misses tend to be pushes and hooks; more pushes or push fades with the drivers (with the occasional pop up when I over accelerate), and hooks with the irons. Definitely a flip in there too. The instructor said I tend to tip the shaft out to the ball late in the downswing in an attempt to square the face. Any thoughts on how to shallow in transition better?

I don't agree with your instructor about swinging more to the right.Won't that make your underplnae issue worse?Swinging to the right is basically what shallows out a steep transition.

Shallowing out in transition is not about swinging left or right.If you are on a good plane in transition,there is no need to actively swing left or right to bandaid a poor path into a good one.

It is very difficult to shallow out the transition if you are across the line at the top.It can be done but most will transition steep from across the line.The first step is to get the club more in line at the top,neither too much across the line or laid off.If you are severely across the line then you may need to exaggerate the feeling of rotating the left forearm clockwise as you reach the top.Keeping the right elbow pointed down also helps.When you get too laid off doing this then you have overdone it.

Coming down you will need to make sure you don't steepen the shaft again.Depending on how steep you transition,you will need to exaggerate the laid off feeling even more.Feel like you rotate the left forearm even more clockwise and drop the right elbow and right shoulder down together.This may feel absurd but you have probably only marginally improved the steep transition if you video your swing.It is not easy to make significant changes to your swing overnight.
 
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