Strong Grip vs. Neutral

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How would you bend your right wrist with a stronger grip? It does not seem right to me to bend it straight back as with a neutral grip. This gives me a very closed, "Rich Beem" (I dunno how he hits a ball like that- all I get is hooks) shut face at the top and a flat wrist...with a strong grip, shouldn't the right wrist bend on more of an angle away from the ball?

I can see the benefits of bending it back with a neutral grip but I dunno about a strong grip.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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With a strong grip you will have some cup in your left wrist. A good way to get the idea of how much right wrist you need with a strong grip is to take your grip at impact fix like brian says.

If you set your alignments and take your grip at impact fix you'll see how much "cup" is still in your left hand and how much your right wrist is bent. Then just take that to the top and see what you look like.

Also for more of a visual explanation please check out Brady Riggs site (aka Redgoat) as he put up a new fundamental section on the grip. He shows neutral, weak, and strong and the associated clubface positions at the top with a cupped and flat left wrist.

http://redgoat.smugmug.com
 
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EdZ

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He does have an interesting move, more of an angled hinge 'block'.... tough to work the ball well more than one way from there, but very reliable. Distance/trajectory control 'can' be an issue though.

Reminds me a lot of Dante's 'magic' move
 
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Oh ya his wrist is incredibly flat...but he doesn't have a neutral grip. He plays with a strong grip.

http://golfdigest.com/instruction/s...truction/swingsequences/gd200212richbeem.html

You can't really see it there but his face is WAY closed at the top there. His swing works for him I guess but I really don't understand how he doesn't hit hooks. Same with Duval...they must have to delay driving with their right arm until the last possible second. I don't like having to hold it off that long...too succeptible to big hooks.

EdZ...who is Dante?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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He probably uses an angled hinge (half roll) versus a horizontal hinge (full roll) as Duval USED TO. Thats why he hit those nice fades from a shut face, angled hinge.

Haney converted him to a nuetral grip full-roll and he just isn't "getting it."
 
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Hmmm...interesting...

I've never heard anything official about Duval's swing changes. I heard he was tinkering around with it a bit...has he actually made changes or has he gone back to his old swing?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

Hmmm...interesting...

I've never heard anything official about Duval's swing changes. I heard he was tinkering around with it a bit...has he actually made changes or has he gone back to his old swing?
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All i know is that he's working with Haney now and haney changed his extremely strong grip to nuetral and Haney likes to really open/close the face in his swing.

Duval used to just take it back with a strong grip, shut face and from what i know just use an angled hinge and hit a nice big fade.

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So my conclusion is that David is having a rough time "getting" the full roll procedure among his other issues.
 
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Many (over 40%) of pros on the PGA tour use a strong</u> grip (others slightly strong, others neutral, pavin weak). Couples, Zack Johnson, many others are very strong.

Do they roll on the backswing and no roll on the downswing? Is their path very in to out</u>(almost like a blocking action)? Are they primarily faders?

I hit some of my best and strongest shots with a strong grip and hit some of my best long iron shots with a slightly strong grip.
 
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