Swing fix - easier said than done

[tbone1065]

OK, so here is my dilemma. At the top of my backswing I get my upper body too far over my right leg. My hips, to counter balance, move forward. Also, and I don't know if this is a result of my upper body movement, I tend to lift up. The result is that at impact, my hands never get forward enough and my body does not move target ward enough.

When I saw Brian a year ago, the idea was to be a bit more Colin Montgomerie, meaning my hips should move to the right, keeping my upper body more stacked. Also, we worked on not laying the club off, which I think I have fixed.
The problem I am having is that when I make this rightward move with the hips, I don't get my weight shifted properly. I feel like the weight stays left. I guess the description would be that I feel nonathletic.

I know, after watching video, that my top of backswing position is no where near a good players. Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to get to the top in a better position?

BTW, after working with Brian for the short time I had with him, I know that my backswing position was much better than it is now, but I can't seem to put the Monty move into practice.

 

[joec]

you need to learn to pivot. by your own admission, you are sliding. set up with your right hip lower than your left hip, about an inch or two, and turn your arse to the target. that is a start. forget colin image. look at hogan. go see someone who can teach a proper pivot.

 

[jerry1967]

delete this post

 

[SteveT]

First, put down your golf club, because you can't learn a basic physical movement by trying to swing a golf club and incorporate a new move. Of course, most adults think they can just go directly to their golfswing and make alterations on the fly. Good luck, because not even a pro golfer would try that, unless they are willing to pound in a move for the next 6 months of daily practice.

Before you can do something as basic as rotate your body mass, you must be fully trained in rotating that body mass .. and without a golf club.

My suggestion is that you get a 6 foot (2 meter) sturdy wood rod or steel tube, and place it on your shoulders like a yoke and hold it with your hands. Then learn to rotate that rod from side to side around your spinal axis, slowly at first, to feel your weight shifting and your leg resisting the thrust and shear torque. Start vertically and then later incorporate an Address crouch. Spread your feet apart at various distances to feel the difference. Don't speed up too much, just find a comfortable tempo and apply more stress cautiously.

You can slightly bend the rod in the middle and put on some foam insulation to make it more comfortable around your neck. If you use a solid steel rod, be very careful swinging that thing. It's not weight, it's repetitions.

Do this for several months, and you will be intimately familiar with how your body prefers to rotate and shift. It then becomes so ingrained that it's automatic and correct. Then pick up a golf club. ... Okay, you can use the golf club after the exercise, but don't congratulate yourself prematurely and abandon the drill, because it will take at least a couple of months of grinding to make it stick.

However, if you believe that all you need is an explanation and your magnificent mind will instantaneously incorporate it into your powerful adult body holding a golf club ... well then skip the exercising. Some people are so good, they see it once and then do it.

 

[tbone1065]

Guys,
Thanks for the replies, I think.
Joec, I did not imply that Brian was wrong in what he was showing me, it just that I have not ingrained the move. BTW, I am not Hogan, don't aspire to be and even if I did, my body would not let me.

Steve, thanks for the drill advice. The last line of your post is puzzling. Did I imply that I was that good or that all I needed was an explanation?

 

[lookingtolearn]

Can you post a video?

 

[natep]

tbone:

Check out Brian's "throw the golf ball down the line" drill in this video:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TTx9UeD1m0[/media]

 

[SteveT]

Steve, thanks for the drill advice. The last line of your post is puzzling. Did I imply that I was that good or that all I needed was an explanation?

I was generalizing and being sarcastic too.

It's quite amazing how many fantastically athletic and intellectual golfers you can find on golf forums .... they try a golf tip and then report back within 24 hours that it produced amazing results ... so amazing that even a pro would take 6 months to incorporate that tip into their swing. Go figure ...


BTW ... BManz video episode #8 posted above is quite excellent, and he was scientifically correct too !!! My suggested rotation drill is more basic, elementary, remedial.

 

[Ringer]

You know what's funny, if you don't want to go "right" just start on the right. You'll have no choice but to go left.

 

[natep]

LOL I think it's because we suck so bad that we are capable of instant improvement, while the pro's have reached 99% of their potential.

 

[tbone1065]

Ringer, I hear what you are saying. I guess I need to figure out a way to post up a video or just break down and get to NOLA to take advantage of Brian's winter special pricing!
Steve, I am a former hockey player, now older and arthritic but nobody ever mistook me for an intellectual.
I think my biggest problem is that I just don't know what my body is doing during the swing.
Since I have just started playing more often, I need to put in the time to fix this move or take up tennis.

 

[SteveT]

You know what's funny, if you don't want to go "right" just start on the right. You'll have no choice but to go left.

Unfortunately, most just flip their hands to make sure they go left ... and they end up with a worm burner hook ...!

 

[SteveT]

@ tbone1065 ... yup ... you gotta teach that ol' dog new golf tricks otherwise you just become an old clown ... been there done that ...LOL

Only hours of distributed practice and repetition will make you great at golf ... start now ..!!