Who is right???
There are a lot of discussion threads on swinging left.
That's because 90% of all players who an break 80, swing
TOO FAR to the right.
I presume then swinging right must exist thought there isn't any good info available.
There are so many teachers making golfers swing wildly inside-out that your statement is a a little bit off, at least.
Some golfers have advocated hitting out on the ball to produce a draw, would this the same concept as swinging right?
Swinging in a certain direction is one thing—the Horizontal Plane Angle or "Plane Line."
The PATH the club takes is another. Watch my D-Plane video (I have a feeling you have already).
Perhaps swinging right simply means big slice and no one wants to discuss that.
Nothing worse than a right-to-right shot.
I don't think swinging right exists.
You swing around your body from right to left (for a righty).
So one really always swings left.
They always swing RIGHT to—on the way down.
But how is that HSP aligned to the target, and TO THE GOLFER that matters....hmmmm.....
Grab a hula-hoop and set it up like the club swings around your body. Then turn it so the front moves left, this is swinging left. Turn the front to the right, this is swinging right.
Great.
Then draw a couple of lines on it and you can see the bottom of the D-Plane.
Low point is the same as the "most outward point." (the top of the "rainbow", if you look down at the ground and envision one)
There is HUGE flat-ish spot on the best swings....
Foley advocates 3 degrees right. I am not sure why but I know the S&T folks claim the inward hand path shoulder turn creates power. Not sure if 0,0 or -2,-1 creates more or less distance then 3, 1.5?? Brian's softdraw might be 3 degrees right??
I bet Brian has the answers.
Soft Draw is about 3-4° inside-out.
They claim 3° because that is how they reverse-reverse engineered it.
Path to clubface to ball has NO EFFECT on distance. Path to clubface to ball to BODY has different effects.
I'll ask Wood at the Symposium.
Nothing beats zeros for accuracy.
Swinging right certainly exists.
According to Trackman, Kenny Perry has the path that is furthest out to the right of anybody on Tour with a path of +6* (Monty is the furthest left at -6*).
I believe to 'have a chance', you don't want to go too much outside of that -6 to +6 realm. As Brian pointed out with a student, the student showed up with a path of +11.
Typicaly the more you swing out to the right, the more shallow your AoA is. This works well with a driver because you can hit upward on the ball with the driver and if you do, you can swing out to the right and wind up witha path that is very square to the target. Perry is a good example of this. Excellent driver of the ball and hits it a long, long ways. But his clubhead speed is only about 110 mph when the top clubhead speeds on Tour are about 125 mph. But since he hits up on the driver and swings out to the right, he hits the driver with very little bend and hits it very long for somebody with that clubhead speed.
Ricky Fowler swings well out to the right. Great driver of the ball. But when he has to hit downward on a club, he hits more of a draw. Hits a pretty good sized draw with his 9-iron.
I think it's great if you can become good enough to swing left and swing right depending on the shot you want to hit and the club you have.
I think good players basically learn to stop coming OTT and over-do it by swing too far out to the right.
Perry is very good with the irons as well.
Perry is a very strong talented guy.
6° is a BUNCH with an iron.
I think most pros past and present hit down with the driver.It may not yield the best distance but it's better than bringing two swings out to play.
Most young guns on tour now, and lots of old guns, hit UP on the driver.
That's a good question too. How many pros change their swings by trying to shape shots with irons? If they do, then changing their driver swing to swing up and right would really not be a big deal. And if they don't want to swing right while hitting up, wouldn't they just need to aim 20-30 yards right?
Or swing that way.
LOTS of good players zero out with the irons, put up negative numvers with the 3-wood, and swing 4-6° inside-out with a driver.
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