Swinging vs. Hitting...its great to know both

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Jim Kobylinski

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As a small follow up to my "i finally get it post" http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2111

I am really glad i learned swinging. I was more a switter before and eventually merged into swinging. Swinging works great because its effortless and makes it easy to hit the long clubs. I really like it.

HOWEVER

In my limited experience, swinging really sucks out of any thick rough. Yesterday i shot 3 over at a course with maybe just under ankle high rough, but it was THICK and STICKY. I also was alternating between swinging and hitting. Mainly hitting those short iron approaches.

When i tried to "swing" it out of the rough, what a horrible experience that was. Rough snagged my club everytime, contact was horrible, and i felt like i was in US Open rough. But when i "hit it" out of the rough, it was like any wasn't even in rough. Good contact, nice ball flight and enough backspin to even hold a semi-firm green.

Also what is interesting is that my GLOVE is now wearing much more evenly. I'm not wearing the crap out of my thumb as i use to (hitting everything). It is an even wear between the thumb and the heel pad.

So no matter what you do, swing or hit, try to learn both because it will end up very valuable to your game. And don't be afraid to "hit" those fairway woods or hybrids out of the rough, it works with those too.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Thats the beauty anakin....

You can swing or hit as much as you want. The "key" to it is to NOT MIX COMPONENTS! For instance with swinging you hip bump is PARALLEL to your target line. In hitting the hip bump is CROSS LINE to your target line.

You wouldn't want to "hit" a shot and bump parallel, no good.

Make sense?
 
quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

Thats the beauty anakin....

You can swing or hit as much as you want. The "key" to it is to NOT MIX COMPONENTS! For instance with swinging you hip bump is PARALLEL to your target line. In hitting the hip bump is CROSS LINE to your target line.

You wouldn't want to "hit" a shot and bump parallel, no good.

Make sense?

"CROSS LINE to your target line", does it mean open hip line? with fairly square stance?
 

Jim Kobylinski

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No...crossline means your target line is straight and your hips should bump diagonaly out to right field of that line. Hence the cross (across) line (the target line). Cross-line

:)
 
If you bump parallel with hitting will you likely hit a pull?

What about the setup differences? What would you say is key?
 

Jim Kobylinski

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If you slide parallel you could hit a pull, thin it, hit a push.

The only setup differences i use is that when i'm hitting:

-i'll setup in impact fix
-pre turned hips
-go to the top, not the end (or is it the other way around?)
-more of a right forearm pickup (i use more of a shoulder turn takeaway with swinging)
-i might slightly close my stance some depending on shot at hand
-i might close the face some if i'm hitting a longer shot (i.e. wood or long iron)

Thats about all i'll do different setup wise
 
quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

If you slide parallel you could hit a pull, thin it, hit a push.

The only setup differences i use is that when i'm hitting:

-i'll setup in impact fix
-pre turned hips
-go to the top, not the end (or is it the other way around?)
-more of a right forearm pickup (i use more of a shoulder turn takeaway with swinging)
-i might slightly close my stance some depending on shot at hand
-i might close the face some if i'm hitting a longer shot (i.e. wood or long iron)

Thats about all i'll do different setup wise

K this cross-line hip bump is new to me. I remember discussions about it in my early days of TGM...but it went over my head back then.

I'm gonna try it now that I understand it.

Thanks Jimbo.

Can I call you Jimbo? [8D]
 
If you have a sqare-square stance and plane line how do you do the crossline slide without sending all your weight onto the front foot toe?
 
You pre-turn your hips at address man. Close the hips a bit w/o closing your stance line (I think).

Jim correct me if I'm wrong. I'm no hitter.
 
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