swingvision on Phils driver

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Now now Powerdraw, I have seen results of Kuehne with his driver and he is indeed swinging on the up!, now where did he finish at the FBR, hmm T49. They also had swingvision of Phil at the FBR clearly swinging down through impact and then going down some more, hit a nice little 326 yard middle of the fairway drive.
 
You also have to remember that just because the clubhead strikes the ball moving upward doesn't necessarily mean the golfer was "swinging up". The golfer could very well be thrusting downward so much that the shaft flexes the other way (Hogan) and the clubhead moves up while the golfers arms and hands are thrusting down. With Kuehne's force, I bet this is the case.
 
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You also have to remember that just because the clubhead strikes the ball moving upward doesn't necessarily mean the golfer was "swinging up". The golfer could very well be thrusting downward so much that the shaft flexes the other way (Hogan) and the clubhead moves up while the golfers arms and hands are thrusting down. With Kuehne's force, I bet this is the case.

Mgjordan...uh, no.

Densikat, well, you seem like a smart kid. lol!

Mg, ever notice Kuenes tee? a mile high, i dont think hes swinging down, in fact, he keeps his head so far behind just to hit the ball on that upward strike, i guess its an option, a painfull one maybe...
 
As Yoda posted in a thread here a while back. Hitting up on the driver is definately possible and does produce longer drives, but at the cost of accuracy and the general danger of losing alignments. The ball must be played forward of lowpoint to hit up and I think Kuehne is a player who does this.
 

bcoak

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there is an article in last weeks GolfWorld that has some info on his PM's equipment. He said that he originally had a driver with more backweighting to help his launch angle since he was hitting down on it, but switched to weighting that helped even out his area of contact.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Look at my post in the other thread on this subject:

You can both hit up and hit down with a driver...Yoda explained the benefits/disadvantages of each.

And as bcoak said, phil's new fusion was designed specifically FOR HIM because he admitted he hits DOWN on the driver and needed the extra weight for the bigger launch angle.
 
I'd like to chime in here as well. Since I'm not very big or heavy, I've always been at the back of the driving bus, until last year when I took some lessons and got a new driver. At that time hitting up was just starting to be taught as the "ideal" way to hit the driver. So that's what I did and gained some distance. With my old flat swing this worked wonders on ball flight and roll. BUT...

Since I started down the TGM path, I've gained at least 20 yards of carry and I'm hitting DOWN on the ball. So far the ball doesn't seem to roll as much but it's still early in the season :) And I don't mind so much that the ball comes down and doesn't roll through the fairway.
 

Burner

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quote:Originally posted by mgjordan

You also have to remember that just because the clubhead strikes the ball moving upward doesn't necessarily mean the golfer was "swinging up". The golfer could very well be thrusting downward so much that the shaft flexes the other way (Hogan) and the clubhead moves up while the golfers arms and hands are thrusting down. With Kuehne's force, I bet this is the case.
Kuehne even managed to deloft his clubface by around 2* at impact whilst swinging up.

So, how far ahead of the clubhead would his hands have to be at impact whilst swinging up in order to achieve this?

Answer: An impossible distance.

Better yet. Swinging up, hitting the ball past the bottom of the swing arc, predisposes a massive hook - unless the clubface is open some at impact. If the clubface is open at impact, being beyond the low point of the swing arc, whilst hitting up then "FORE RIGHT" would be the order of the day.

Go figure.
 
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