Takeaway...again

[birdie_man]

One more about the takeaway Brian.

OK, do you guys advise to use RFP because, maybe for the majority of golfers, it will lead to a better takeaway automatically? i.e. it removes some bad tendancies (to go to the inside too much?).

OR

Can someone who uses RFP (with good technique) get into a better position or have some kind of advantage over a player who uses a shoulder turn takeaway OR someone who sweeps it away with the left forearm OR even someone who sweeps it away with both arms kinda (I have been trying all of them).

***assume that the player doing any of these other takeaways (NOT RFP)
is doing them as well as possible...can the same positions/results be achieved?

 

[birdie_man]

Just watched the video again...you say the shoulder turn takeaway would give you a below-plane, Sam Snead look (too inside).

Which leads me to another question...Could you not just turn your shoulders more steeply (the "Snead" swing is a very flat shoulder turn) and have essentially the same thing?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Nope...that would be a Rotated Shoulder Turn and you would wind up like Fredrik Jacobson.

 

[birdie_man]

So a RFP player can do something that a shoulder turn takeaway player cannot then?

 

[matt]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

So a RFP player can do something that a shoulder turn takeaway player cannot then?

RFP is the only way to make a Zero Shift stroke - it can't be done with a Shoulder Turn Takeaway. But, you can still shift with a RFP...like I do.

 

[birdie_man]

Zero shift as in plane shift? or weight shift?

 

[matt]

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

Zero shift as in plane shift? or weight shift?

Plane shift - not deviating from your initial plane throughout the whole stroke.

 

[birdie_man]

Oh ok cool man. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Brian Manzella]

You ABSOLUTELY can make a shoulder turn takeaway and a no shift backswing!!

See Tiger Woods 2000.

!

 

[nevermind]

zero shift = pp3 does not shift?
sweetspot does not shift?

what is it exactly that does not shif?

thankyou

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

you are not shifting from the sweetspot plane to something else, take it up the sweetspot plane and back down.