The horror

[Andy75]

Hello!

Long time lurker first time poster here.

I filmed my swing for the first time this saturday and was disgusted by what I saw. I knew I was a hacker(can't break 100) but I didn't realize it was this bad. And I have no idea where to start.

I don't have any faith in any of my local pros. They are all pretty much "one-swing guys" and think you have to have a super strong grip to play good golf. One of them was ok with the "weak" grip(Manzella neutral) but suggested I cup my wrist at the top of the swing..
So I'll try to sort this on my own. I don't need a picture perfect swing that bombs it 300 every time. I just want a somewhat reliable swing with ok distance so I can play a golf course the way it's ment to be played.

So what I hope to get from you is a few pointers. Where do I start? What do I obviously do wrong and absolutely have to work on? Tips? Drills?

movie.flv video by Orsino - Photobucket

Any input would be much appreciated.

p.s Sorry for the poor video-quality. It's the best I can do at the moment.

 

[TROYNYGOLFER]

Your swing is not that bad, you have a decent amount of athleticism. I play with many people who do not have as good a swing and shoot in the 80s. I will leave it for the instructors to give you specifics, but I would suggest you begin with two of Brian's web videos. Building Blocks and Confessions of a Former Flipper would be my first two suggestions.

Finally, do not give up hope of finding a good pro. Exactly how do you define local? I received a couple of references for instructors 3-4 hours away. A couple of lessons with an excellent instructor beat the hell out of several lessons from a mediocre guy.

 

[Matt Bryda]

Andy75,


It looks like you are letting go of the club with your right hand and maybe even the left slightly.

Take a few practice swings with you eyes closed. This will make you more aware of your hands during the swing and also your balance.

I would work on 3/4 pitch motions focusing on the things in Confessions of a Former Flipper, Brian's Video.

Matt

 

[bax1865]

Case Closed............and arched

Maybe it just my computer but to see the video I have to lay on my side. Even from there I can see the left wrist becomes very "arched" at the "end" of the backswing. This creates a very closed clubface. With the clubface so closed there has to be many manipulations to get consistantly back to a proper impact clubface alignments. That is also the reason the right hand seperates from the left. Educate the hands, educate the hands, educate the hands! Slow motion drills with eyes closed until you can feel the difference.

 

[Matt Bryda]

Maybe it just my computer but to see the video I have to lay on my side

It took me an hour to get all the water back in my left ear!

Matt

 

[Andy75]

Your swing is not that bad, you have a decent amount of athleticism. I play with many people who do not have as good a swing and shoot in the 80s. I will leave it for the instructors to give you specifics, but I would suggest you begin with two of Brian's web videos. Building Blocks and Confessions of a Former Flipper would be my first two suggestions.

Thank you for the kind words. That gives me some hope.
I've got both Building blocks and Flipper, and also NSA. The problem is of course to know which of all that great info to focus on.

Finally, do not give up hope of finding a good pro. Exactly how do you define local? I received a couple of references for instructors 3-4 hours away. A couple of lessons with an excellent instructor beat the hell out of several lessons from a mediocre guy.

In fairness, if I start looking 3-4 hours away there are probably 30 more guys available. But I'm getting tired of going to different people and hearing different things and getting different things to work on every time. But maybe I should keep looking.
Anybody know of any good instructors in southern sweden?

 

[Andy75]

Andy75,


It looks like you are letting go of the club with your right hand and maybe even the left slightly.

Take a few practice swings with you eyes closed. This will make you more aware of your hands during the swing and also your balance.

I would work on 3/4 pitch motions focusing on the things in Confessions of a Former Flipper, Brian's Video.

Matt

You're right! I do let go a little. I hadn't realized. I'll try the eyes closed thing next time.
Thanks for the input!

 

[Andy75]

Maybe it just my computer but to see the video I have to lay on my side.

It took me an hour to get all the water back in my left ear!

We had to film it that way to get all of me, with my cell phone. My inferior video-editing skills wouldn't let me rotate it. Sorry.

Even from there I can see the left wrist becomes very "arched" at the "end" of the backswing. This creates a very closed clubface. With the clubface so closed there has to be many manipulations to get consistantly back to a proper impact clubface alignments. That is also the reason the right hand seperates from the left. Educate the hands, educate the hands, educate the hands! Slow motion drills with eyes closed until you can feel the difference.

I have probably been overdoing the "twistaway" concept eh? Thanks for the input, I'll try to straighten that wrist out and see if my hands are educatable.

 

[vjsinger]

Lagging clubhead takeaway and learn to use the pivot better earlier, the transition and the takeaway, like most golfers, is killing you.

 

[Andy75]

Lagging clubhead takeaway and learn to use the pivot better earlier, the transition and the takeaway, like most golfers, is killing you.

You mean using the pivot to drag the club back? I've messed around with it a little because it seems Brian likes it, but I didn't like the feeling of it. Felt like I lost control of the club, but that might be the regripping issues sideyard spotted.
I'll try it on some more though. I'm desperate.

 

[golfer24]

Swedish teachers outside of Stockholm have only a very basic knowledge of the swing. My brother lives in vesteras and has wasted money on a few there

 

[Andy75]

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=157825157825]Swedish[/url] teachers outside of Stockholm have only a very basic knowledge of the swing. My brother lives in vesteras and has wasted money on a few there

That's my experience too, and I'm tired of wasting money looking so now I'll try to do it myself.
And to do it yourself it seems the only way is to get a clear picture of what you're trying to do and keep filming yourself and checking yourself til you do it.

I just bought "Soft draw 1.0" which, Brian says, is pretty close to the middle of the "Manzella matrix" so I decided to use that as my model, and take it from there. Funnily enough, that pattern seems really unlike what I'm doing now, and that's probably a good thing. Can't wait to try it out. In the mean time, here is two more clips, and once again any feedback is much appreciated.

Snowy driver dtl video by Orsino - Photobucket

6i front view video by Orsino - Photobucket