Brian: I have been following your swing advice from you videos and instruction articles to the letter as far as I can see. My ball striking is much better. One thing my playing partners comment on is the height I get on the ball. I am hitting the ball much longer but the apex of the flight is much higher. Is this the Manzella ball flight ? Is a high ball flight a product of axis tilt in that more axis tilt leads to more height and less to a lower ball flight. I have changed my shafts from Dynamic Gold to Project X so this may account for a bit of the change but I am also hitting the woods higher. Has anyone else found that by following Brian's advice that they get more height on their flight? Thanks.
The Manzella ball flight?
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There are tons of reasons for high ball flight, so the real issue is how well does the ball 'hold the line' - think of a frisbee. If you throw a frisbee without much spin, it will 'float' and not hold its line - same is true with golf - the more backspin, the more 'true' the impact, the more the ball will hold its line, especially in the wind (although many of the cheap 'high spin' balls will shoot up on you in even light wind, you have to find the right balance, most spin, no upshoot) - what you are seeing is the 'true' ball flight of a well struck shot. Assuming the shaft fits you, that will be much higher than most are used to hitting. If you are hearing the 'zip' of the ball off the club (or as I like to call it, 'sizzle', and getting that high ball flight that holds the line, congratulations, you have now learned pro contact! Solid, hands leading contact with lag, inside back corner, slightly open clubface. You have learned page 102 of Hogan's 5 lessons.
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Hey Ed...thanks so much for always trying to steal my thunder...
Guys (like hue and bcoak) the properly struck ball will always stay in the air longer (ball speed) and finish higher (staying in the air longer and the increased backspin of hitting DOWN on the ball).
Glad to hear it.
and BTW hue, how do you like the project X's??
Guys (like hue and bcoak) the properly struck ball will always stay in the air longer (ball speed) and finish higher (staying in the air longer and the increased backspin of hitting DOWN on the ball).
Glad to hear it.
and BTW hue, how do you like the project X's??
bcoak
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I hit a constant weight shaft in Callaway irons, (not the X's) and didn't like the feel. Felt like the weight was all towards the grip-end where the DG's and ordinary rifles (which I have now) you can feel the clubhead more. I hooked all the constant weight shafts. Are the X's different?
next question...on the same line: as impact gets better and "smash factor" goes up------should a move to a lower spin ball be considered
I realize as swing speeds go higher, a lower spin ball becomes a consideration to consider in launch angle etc,
but.....I would think more consistent impact combined with some higher swing speed would equate to a lower spin ball performing better as well........the 2 together likely result in a ball speed
near a higher swing speed golfer with less consistent impact.....
I realize as swing speeds go higher, a lower spin ball becomes a consideration to consider in launch angle etc,
but.....I would think more consistent impact combined with some higher swing speed would equate to a lower spin ball performing better as well........the 2 together likely result in a ball speed
near a higher swing speed golfer with less consistent impact.....
yes, the better you get, the more you want to stay away from the 'high spin' balls, but only to a point....
I sometimes will play the top flight xl3000 'feel' ball.... which from a flight standpoint, is pretty darn good for a cheap ball - still a 'rock' around the greens compared to the hogan apex tour (my usual ball), or prov.... by contrast, if I hit any of the 'spin' balls, it will upshoot in any wind at all, big time.
you want the most spin you can, with no upshoot in wind - I personally like high spin balls in the wind, you just have to find the right 'balance' of spin, so you can still control it. Even the cheap balls made today are WAY ahead of balls from 5-10 years ago, so you can get just the right level of spin off the irons, and still keep the spin down off the driver.
I sometimes will play the top flight xl3000 'feel' ball.... which from a flight standpoint, is pretty darn good for a cheap ball - still a 'rock' around the greens compared to the hogan apex tour (my usual ball), or prov.... by contrast, if I hit any of the 'spin' balls, it will upshoot in any wind at all, big time.
you want the most spin you can, with no upshoot in wind - I personally like high spin balls in the wind, you just have to find the right 'balance' of spin, so you can still control it. Even the cheap balls made today are WAY ahead of balls from 5-10 years ago, so you can get just the right level of spin off the irons, and still keep the spin down off the driver.
DivotDelite
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Do the videos teach one HOW to hit down on the ball? I know I am supposed to hit down on the ball, but for some reason, I still sweep. Probably my right shoulder does not go downplane. I really need some kind of foolproof method for hitting down. If this video has it, then I would certainly beta test it for 90 bucks.
Thx
Brian Manzella
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EVERY student who I have ever taught for ANY length of time at all, bangs down on the ball.
The videos contain all of this same information.
The videos contain all of this same information.
Brian: I think Project X are the best . The first time I came across them was when playing Walton Heath with my playing partner. He had just got the shafts put in his clubs. We hit the ball the same distances. We got to the 6th hole on the new course a 171 yard par 3 with an elevated green with a high lipped bunker on the right side and the pin was cut close to it and behind it. There was a gale blowing directly at the flag from behind us. I did not fancy the shot as I could see no way how I could get close to the pin and hold the green. I hit a good shot just right of the flag but the wind knocked my flight down and the ball ran off the back of the green. I was using Dynamic Gold. David hit his shot and the flight was way different . The ball got up quicker had a flat peak in it's trajectory and then dropped like a stone and sat down near it's pitch mark. I had a go with his club and it did the same thing and he hit my club and the ball ran off the back of the green. The shaft gets the ball up much quicker with a flat peak and then just drops like a stone. This is great when going for tight pin positions . The ball tends to stop close to where it lands. With Dynamics I would often get the ball screwing back with the short irons which is not predictable. Project X suit players who hit down on the ball and take divots not pickers. I found thay I gained about 1/2 club in length . They feel much better when you flush one and you can feel the shaft kick. They seem tighter and more accurate also.
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Hey Ed I think he got you there, infact you do it so often you could be the next thor for the mythological times of tommorow but for right now, just find a joint and chill ....lol
nah... he's just pissed that he isn't the only person that knows the swing, there are several folks that do - all a matter of perspective.
After all, we're all describing the same thing..... [8D]
And as I said before, it's all about good golf for the masses, helping folks play better through good information..... and I'd bet Brian would agree.
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quote:Originally posted by Mathew
Hey Ed I think he got you there, infact you do it so often you could be the next thor for the mythological times of tommorow but for right now, just find a joint and chill ....lol
nah... he's just pissed that he isn't the only person that knows the swing, there are several folks that do - all a matter of perspective.
After all, we're all describing the same thing..... [8D]
And as I said before, it's all about good golf for the masses, helping folks play better through good information..... and I'd bet Brian would agree.
Nah... your a blabbering - toungue falls out...lol
The difference with someone at the top and someone is typical is also conveyed in mannerisms. Your mannerisms change as you begin to understand the mechanics better. It is the difference between Tigers attitude and someone struggling to make their tour card. Woods knows he has a chance of winning a tournament every time he enters, there is none of this 'these guys are really good', he knows inside and has a self believe which spawns from his talent.
In the same way golf teachers talent spawns their attitude because the last thing a pupil needs to know that their pro is average, the self belief. True self belief comes from knowing your stuff.
So why do you then lack this true self belief and have to take questions assigned to Brian...lol
DivotDelite
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Does the video teach a hitting procedure, or only swinging? My flexibility sucks, and swinging simply seems futile. I'd be better off muscling the ball, I imagine.
Brian Manzella
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Do It Right 0.5, which is no longer shipping, is a swinging PLUS hitting four-barrel approach.
But in the 0.9 version, I explain PURE swinging, PURE Hitting and four barrel procedures.
But in the 0.9 version, I explain PURE swinging, PURE Hitting and four barrel procedures.
EaglesNest
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Nah... your the one that sounds pissed.
bcoak: Here is a list of Pros that play Project X
Phil Mickelson
Rich Beem
Stuart Appleby
Robert Allenby
Rocco Mediate
Rod Pampling
Pat Perez
Donnie Hammond
Frank Lickliter II
this was taken from this thread that may be of interest.
http://69.56.133.122/invboard_release/upload/index.php?showtopic=35680&hl=project+x
Project X play stiffer than the corresponding flex in Royal Precision Rifle who make both shafts. PX 5.5 = Rifle 6 and a bit in stiffness. PX 5.5 = about S 400 in dynamic gold.
They turn up pulled and new in BSG forsale at reasonable prices like this set
http://69.56.133.122/invboard_release/upload/index.php?showtopic=38648
Phil Mickelson
Rich Beem
Stuart Appleby
Robert Allenby
Rocco Mediate
Rod Pampling
Pat Perez
Donnie Hammond
Frank Lickliter II
this was taken from this thread that may be of interest.
http://69.56.133.122/invboard_release/upload/index.php?showtopic=35680&hl=project+x
Project X play stiffer than the corresponding flex in Royal Precision Rifle who make both shafts. PX 5.5 = Rifle 6 and a bit in stiffness. PX 5.5 = about S 400 in dynamic gold.
They turn up pulled and new in BSG forsale at reasonable prices like this set
http://69.56.133.122/invboard_release/upload/index.php?showtopic=38648
Brian Manzella
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I had to give up my 'swing-sync' clubs because the company no longer will 'retro-fit' other companies head to their system
So with my new equipment deal with Srixon (great stuff) I am back in the world of 'hope-it-works.'
Project x's are probably next up for the HURRICANE
So with my new equipment deal with Srixon (great stuff) I am back in the world of 'hope-it-works.'
Project x's are probably next up for the HURRICANE
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