The Pros on Trackman
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Kevin Shields
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Did you watch Greame McDowell Sunday?
I would guess that most top level Tour players would have relatively consistent patterns and relatively consistent path and face numbers...on Trackman. As far as whether or not they can reproduce the same numbers in competition and then again on the last few holes of a tournament they are in contention to win is a whole different ballgame. That's when their natural tendencies show up.
Not to bring the subject back to Eldrick, but I thought the interview with Tiger after he withdrew from the Players was telling. He strained his achilles on the very first swing of the day....which goes along with my theory that a player's competition swing and driving range swing can be so different that its nearly impossible to reproduce.
Unless, like Pulp Fiction, they can stick him with Adrenaline needles every few swings.
Not to bring the subject back to Eldrick, but I thought the interview with Tiger after he withdrew from the Players was telling. He strained his achilles on the very first swing of the day....which goes along with my theory that a player's competition swing and driving range swing can be so different that its nearly impossible to reproduce.
Unless, like Pulp Fiction, they can stick him with Adrenaline needles every few swings.
Kevin Shields
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"I need a black pen, a felt tip pen........A BLACK F***IN MARKER!!!!" - Vincent Vega preparing to administer the adrenaline shot
golfball323
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I watched Dudley Hart hit balls into one of our simulators for a few minutes.
7 Iron
164.3 yds
163.2 yds
164.0 yds
164.1 yds
164.9 yds.
That to me was far more impressive than anything.
7 Iron
164.3 yds
163.2 yds
164.0 yds
164.1 yds
164.9 yds.
That to me was far more impressive than anything.
Jared Willerson
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Speaking of...what happened to Dudley Hart? He was in the Tour Championship a couple of years ago and has since faded.
golfball323
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His back is a mess right now.
Had two discs fused two years ago and the ones right above and below the fusion went.
He's now on a very extensive workout plan trying to strengthen his entire body.
Great guy, crazy good player. Shame he is hurt. Could definitely be a favorite on tour.
Had two discs fused two years ago and the ones right above and below the fusion went.
He's now on a very extensive workout plan trying to strengthen his entire body.
Great guy, crazy good player. Shame he is hurt. Could definitely be a favorite on tour.
golfball323
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as a scratch golfer who is happy when he hits it on target and pure I can say that I am not even in the same league in terms of control like that.
There are so many dimensions to being a pro...
There are so many dimensions to being a pro...
Kevin Shields
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You obviously understand what is really important
golfball323
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Clubface, club path are the big two.
Speed control. Knowing when and how to apply speed is something that isn't talked about enough.
Speed control. Knowing when and how to apply speed is something that isn't talked about enough.
Back in the late 60's, I remember playing in the PGA Winter Program Stroke Play Event at the "old - old" PGA National (now JDM) on the East Course. I was paired with an "old timer" name Pete Cooper. Pete never once hit an iron to the green that was "at the flag". Never had more than a 15 footer for birdie as he was always dead pin high - shot 4 or 5 under. Made me realize right then how distance control was more important than the ability to hit it dead on line with the flag.
Also played one year with another "old timer" named Joe Lopez, Sr in the Senior Junior (we wound up finishing 2nd or 3rd). Just reinforced what I had learned from playing with Pete a year or two earlier.
A player with good (but not necessarily great) trackman #s and who can consistently hit the ball the right distance will usually come out on top. TW only became a great player when he learned (especially with the mid to shorter irons) to control his trajectory and distance.
Bruce
Also played one year with another "old timer" named Joe Lopez, Sr in the Senior Junior (we wound up finishing 2nd or 3rd). Just reinforced what I had learned from playing with Pete a year or two earlier.
A player with good (but not necessarily great) trackman #s and who can consistently hit the ball the right distance will usually come out on top. TW only became a great player when he learned (especially with the mid to shorter irons) to control his trajectory and distance.
Bruce
Do you know what the worst part about that is? I bet he lands on 164 about 8 times per year. What a shame.
Kevin Shields
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RH, you would be surprised to know how they do NOT hit the sweetspot very often. But....they are consistently in the same spot. Somebody I'm sure will point you to the chart that was put up awhile ago. Look at McDowell's numbers. I'm sure some of those were heel hits. With those numbers, some of those shots would be unplayable hooks with center hits.
golfball323
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He landed his iron shots accurately enough to be a top-30 player in 2009 while being a not-very-good driver.
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