The right hand 'throw'

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EdZ

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Just wanted to get a thread going on what people 'feel' for their right hand through the shot

the 'rock skip'
the 'sidearm'
the 'underhand toss'
the 'uppercut punch'

What type of 'throw' do YOU feel, and where do you aim it?

Brian, looking forward to your aim point article BTW....;)
 
Brian,
A few people are saying that the right arm is just going up and down. And the pivot keeps it on plane. I believe that means that there's no conscious move forward with your arms.
What would you say to that? Is this correct?
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by hue

My right arm throw feels like a javelin throw with the elbow leading but underarm.

[8D]

throwing it down into the ground (rock skip,down plane), or forward to your target (up plane\forward)?

;)
 

Mathew

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Well doesn't the right arm motion does would depend on the hinge functions.... actually I been meaning to do a thread on this to help my confusions on wrist this....will do it soon.....
 
In Brian's "May the Forces be with You", shows the example of skipping rocks with forearm leading the way. This would be the correct one.

Ben likes to say halfway between side arm and underhand.

Saying it’s a javelin throw with the elbow leading but underarm always makes me cringe
because no one in the world throws a javelin in such a way. BUT...when holding a club with the right hand in the storage position making a motion of throwing it underhand toward the target would be correct.

If you scoop FoH it isn’t because of a correct motion to the ball but something else.
 

cdog

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If I'm swinging, my rear arm (and body) feels to me just like a sidearm/underhand throw. I lead with my elbow.
If i am hitting, my rear arm drives down almost like a piston (thats what it feels like to me).
 
Perhaps like rolling a heavy bowling ball not at the target but at the inside back of the golf ball or aiming point.
 

EdZ

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quote:Originally posted by mb6606

Perhaps like rolling a heavy bowling ball not at the target but at the inside back of the golf ball or aiming point.

I would consider that an accurate 'post' impact feel, the right arm extending from the inside, or that 'upper cut punch', but pre impact feel is more of the 'side arm javelin' (which is MUCH more like rock skip than bowling) - the key feel for me is that the right palm and forearm stays pointing on plane (in other words, keep that angle, and keep that palm on the rim ;)


Best way to understand this IMO....

Get on a plane board, and throw - the throw is in the plane of the right forearm, the plane of the shaft, from hip high

To do that, you need to get the right shoulder 'down'

(I would assume this will be a key part of the aim point article)
 

Brian Manzella

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Class...

Look at the intersection of your lifeline and a couple of other lines slightly below the middle of your palm (the #1 pressure point), for hitting throw a PUNCH at the aiming point, trying to make contact with this 'intersection' w/right wrist bent back.

This is HITTING...

The underhanded javelin throw is swinging, try it with a club, grip end first...If you Do It Right, the shaft will fly straight at the target and not HELLICOPTER.

This is Swinging.
 
I am a neophite to TGM. Read the book as recommended and studied it some more. Must say was fairly confused.

Based on Brian's description of punching with the lower right palm versus the javelin throw, I have a clearer understanding of what type of golfer I am - a swinger, baby.

Will try the javelin throw as a cue.

Been told I am on plane back and down until the moment of truth then all goes awry. My tendency at this point is to pull left so my divot goes slightly left and this accomplished without an over-the-top move.

So, being a swinger type, what are some concepts that I need to understand (I think I get the approach path to the ball, hitting with slightly open, but closing club face etc), or practice tips, so I can remove this affliction at the moment of truth?
 
Based on the lengthy posts by Yoda on other TGM forums, and reading TGM, I was always under the impression that the right arms motion is 1) loading the lag onto the index finger, and then thrusting and driving that loaded lag through the aiming point 2)paddlewheel motion of the right forearm with the right wrist vertical to the inclined plane 3) for swingers, a pitching motion consisted of a right wrist slapping motion.

For some reason, in practice, I have interpreted the above as flinging the club from the right index finger.
 
quote:Originally posted by brianman

Class...

Look at the intersection of your lifeline and a couple of other lines slightly below the middle of your palm (the #1 pressure point), for hitting throw a PUNCH at the aiming point, trying to make contact with this 'intersection' w/right wrist bent back.

This is HITTING...

The underhanded javelin throw is swinging, try it with a club, grip end first...If you Do It Right, the shaft will fly straight at the target and not HELLICOPTER.

This is Swinging.

Can anyone add in any thoughts on the right forearm thrust combined
with the need for me to get more consistent in getting the club shaft to align with the right forearm without trying to build in
a Furyk loop.....
been looking at www.golfbetterproductions.com/drill.asp?drillID=3,
Is this a decent drill or is it contradictory to TGM/S.Plane line of
thinking...

thanks for any help
 

Mathew

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If you draw a line where your hands originally where and then drew a line through where your right shoulder is on the backswing - your hands at the top should be on that line....

This can be seen if you were to make an accurate slap by bending the right wrist and arm on the horizontal - see how you bend the elbow down yet the hand still stays on the line of the shoulder....

Now as far as the clubshaft is concerned - left wrist straight - right wrist bends horizontally and never vertically, thats it set :)
 

EdZ

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Brian - can you discuss the advantages/disadvantages of grip types vs. the right hand motion a bit more? (hit vs swing, stronger vs neutral left hand) -Perhaps using your swing vs. Ben's? Unless my eye isn't seeing it, Ben's left hand is much stronger than you advocate, so how would you compare his grip (and resulting tendencies) to yours (and resulting tendencies), as they relate to the right hand throw.
 
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