The Toss

[willimatic]

I find myself looking and analyzing golfswings I see when I play with my friends, or practicing etc. I have found (just my opinion) that the majority of te better players I see/watch have a toss type release. I know there are all kinds of releases and ways to get the ball to do what you want. In my eyes, the toss type release also looks the most natural, not sure if it's the most common on tour but it has a real effortless natural look to it.

What do you all think?

 

[holeout]

I find myself looking and analyzing golfswings I see when I play with my friends, or practicing etc. I have found (just my opinion) that the majority of te better players I see/watch have a toss type release. I know there are all kinds of releases and ways to get the ball to do what you want. In my eyes, the toss type release also looks the most natural, not sure if it's the most common on tour but it has a real effortless natural look to it.

What do you all think?

Fully agree with you. Especially with the longer clubs, a good free release of the club/hands/arms is almost essential. Getting the club way "up the left arm" post-impact with the driver and long irons rarely translates well.

A nice toss is also something almost anyone with a really good short game has.

 

[willimatic]

Couldn't agree more! I have really noticed it with the short game as well, almost seems crucial for touch. I know you can't point to a number of other successful people with not a "toss" type release but like I said, seems most natural and athletic!

 

[spktho]

What constitutes a toss release? Letting the club head pass the hands on the follow through?

 

[Kevin Shields]

Letting the right wrist straighten through and after impact slinging the force down to the clubhead.

 

[Brian Manzella]

The Toss—defined.

THE TOSS - Is the straightening of the right wrist from the maximum bend of the transition, to a predetermined amount at impact.

You can toss TO a flat left wrist, or THROUGH a flat left wrist.

 

[Tball88]

I think a little toss is critical to success. I still sometimes try to maintain a bent right wrist, which is an effort as Brian says to maintain accumulator lag, as opposed to clubhead lag. Once I left the right wrist unbend some, I usually hit the ball much better.

It's a fine line though. I try to take the right wrist from bent back to it's setup conditions and then just pivot, if you overdo the toss it can be fore left.

 

[Whiteflash]

THE TOSS - Is the straightening of the right wrist from the maximum bend of the transition, to a predetermined amount at impact.

You can toss TO a flat left wrist, or THROUGH a flat left wrist.

I think this topic could use a Manzella video !!!




Pretty pleeaaseee.

 

[DCgolf]

how is sweep release defined?

 

[potterphd]

I second Whiteflash. Will bring beignets to my next lesson...

 

[drulf]

In need of a Manzella Dictionary

THE TOSS - Is the straightening of the right wrist from the maximum bend of the transition, to a predetermined amount at impact.

You can toss TO a flat left wrist, or THROUGH a flat left wrist.

So- the more right wrist bend ( =dorsal flexion) you have at the top- the more power you have available in the toss?

Twistaway = amount of counterclockwise rotation around shaft axis, can (miraculously) be achieved with an early right wrist bend (=dorsal flexion)

Another reason for doing the twistaway = more powerful toss?

 

[holeout]

So- the more right wrist bend ( =dorsal flexion) you have at the top- the more power you have available in the toss?

Twistaway = amount of counterclockwise rotation around shaft axis, can (miraculously) be achieved with an early right wrist bend (=dorsal flexion)

Another reason for doing the twistaway = more powerful toss?

The Twistaway is designed to simply bend the right wrist, but with no right wrist cock. Mainly to ensure the left wrist doesn't bend too much and open the club relative to the left arm wedge.

The Toss is typically used in conjunction with a very bent and cocked right wrist. Its definitely a move for someone who doesn't have any trouble controlling the clubface in the first place, or who has already fixed their clubface issues.

A ton of twistaway will actually work against a Toss release, because the left wrist will have to un-arch and it could cause you to get under the sweetspot.

 

[curtisj76]

I still sometimes try to maintain a bent right wrist, which is an effort as Brian says to maintain accumulator lag, as opposed to clubhead lag.

Tball88, could you or someone else give a little info on the difference between accumulator lag and clubhead lag? I think this could be one of those "light bulb moments".

Thanks