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shootin4par

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anyone have any cliffnotes for the book? I have been talking to an instructor who knows about and uses the teachings and he has helped me understand some of the golf swing truths as mentioned in the book. The terms are technical and that is probably why it is not a best seller of instruction books. I do have to say this about it all though, seems that the swing mentioned is based more on laws and less on beliefs. John, the guy who is helping me out with this, has shown me some things that I have had as misconceptions for a long time. is there by chance a book out there that breaks it down into laymens terms? I am newbie to the golfing machine, I like what I see so far, just a little dazed and confused.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Shootin....

It really is easy.

I am working on a video that is VERY basic in nature, and will be a great place to start.

Here is the question you need to ask of someone who says they "know the book":

"What is the #1 Alignment?"

The answer is a FLAT LEFT WRIST.

The best video of all time that shows you how to have one through the ball is:

"Confessions of a Former Flipper."

Read below>>>>

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"Confessions of a Former Flipper"
(How Ben Doyle taught me to have the Flatest Left Wrist in Golf)

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In this video, I show how I went from a hopeless golfer who 'timed the flip' to what some say is the FLATTEST left wrist in golf.

I discuss my lessons with Ben Doyle, the FIRST Authorized Instructor of The Golfing Machine, and show how he taught me EDUCATED HANDS and an EFFECTIVE PIVOT.

I discuss and explain the illusions of impact and address, and demonstrate several drills and mental images of chipping, pithcing and punching WITH THE HELP OF NEW GRAPHICS capablity of the editor (that's me).

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Ya a dumbed down TGM would be good eh. Kind of like a beginner's version to get you into it without overloading and intimidating the reader....then you can progress to the yellow book.

TGM is pretty hard or overwhelming at first.....but once you see value and learn a few things here and there...

....just keep right on learning more and keep pulling things outta that book...it's more about interest and persistence than smarts IMO....i.e. any question you have can pretty much be answered on these forums....i.e. there's ppl here to "dumb down" Homer's book for you.

Soon enough you'll be able to read the entire thing and understand the whole language. Have been at it about a year and 1/2. Took me under a year to "get with it." Have never seen an AI (still want to tho).

Then you can look at the swing in a way where you are pretty confident that you understand how it works.

That's the first step....

Then you apply the information....to your swing. Constantly. There's never gonna be a time (of much length) when you can just sit back and swing.....whether you have your swing basically "settled" (the pattern) or are developing it....

You are always gonna be tinkering....and you might as well be tinkering with the right tools....the right info....rather than trial and error or trying to rediscover a certain "feel" or position you felt the other day or w/e.

BTW I was thinkin the other night.....

....I bet you that Ben Hogan and Moe Norman were prolly two of the most obsessive "golf-swing mechanic guys" ever.....and I don't see that as merely a coincidence in how good they got. They prolly didn't know exactly why things happened, they didn't know the swing to the same extent as Homer did (and has laid out), they prolly even got some things wrong....but I bet they knew it better than most. And they definately knew their own swings better than anyone else knew their own swing....and developed them to much more discriminating standards.
 
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birdie_man

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BTW....if you read something you don't get in a difficult thread....

Ask a question...

Or start a new thread man.

We'll help.....trust me man, we all start out wondering what the hell a "Barrell" is......ETC.

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Archie Swivel

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I wonder what the typical profile is of the members on this and Lynn's site. I'd think a disproportionate number of us excelled in math in grade school. The more artsy people or dumb jocks (who may be good golfers) are probably not geared to think in TGM terms. TGM is just not for everybody in its present form. I don't really talk in TGM terms with my weekend golf group-- I keep it to myself and this forum. That's my two cents.
 
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Biffer

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The reason I come to this forum is to further understand TGM and to see how others interpret the system. From what I gather, Brian is one of most knowledgeable instructors and one of the best interpreters.

Although I have the yellow book, I have gained a much better understanding of it from reading all of the posts on this forum. The book is a very helpful reference manual.

I don't preach TGM when I teach, but I'm sure someone familiar with it could explain most of my swing model in TGM terms. I don't even use TGM terms. I just inform the student how the power is generated and explain to him what do with his arms and legs and torso and head to perform the swing. It's really pretty simple and effective.
 
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6bee1dee

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I'm an artsy (photographer and writer) and a dumb jock (football, track, skiing, baseball, etc) kinda of guy and TGM works just fine for me. Had good parents that gopt me to read a lot of books- maybe thats it. hahahah
 
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Archie Swivel

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6b1d, don't sell yourself short. I've read your posts, I'd bet you scored 700+ in math on the SAT. And you may have been a jock, but not a dumb one. You don't think the average IQ score of all of the AIs is higher than a random selection of golfers? I'm not saying this in an arrogant or elitist way, because I admittedly don't understand the darn yellow book myself and I am not an AI. I'm just saying that those that know it anything like HoleNone or Annikan are pretty smart dudes. Some people just want to learn to break a 100, then 90, then 80 and don't want to get a minor degree in physics/geometry to get there. This TGM stuff in current fashion is not for everyone.
 
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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

I wonder what the typical profile is of the members on this and Lynn's site. I'd think a disproportionate number of us excelled in math in grade school. The more artsy people or dumb jocks (who may be good golfers) are probably not geared to think in TGM terms. TGM is just not for everybody in its present form. I don't really talk in TGM terms with my weekend golf group-- I keep it to myself and this forum. That's my two cents.
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Hate math....not a nerd.

I can see where you are coming from tho.
 
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shootin4par

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thanks for the willingness to help and I am sure I will be in here on some discussions. I finally have learned how to lower my ball flight with the help of a tgmer, something I have never been able to achieve consistenly before. Looks like it may take time but it will be based on solid mechanics
 
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By the way, Bobby Schaeffer told me that when he was on the Canadian Tour he talked to Moe Norman for 3 hours by the trunk of Moe's car. Moe busted out his written Golfing Machine test all filled out and said it was his prize possession. He never turned it into anyone, though.
Shootin, find an authorized instuctor and some videos and you'll get it.
 
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quote:Originally posted by billmckinneygolf

By the way, Bobby Schaeffer told me that when he was on the Canadian Tour he talked to Moe Norman for 3 hours by the trunk of Moe's car. Moe busted out his written Golfing Machine test all filled out and said it was his prize possession. He never turned it into anyone, though.
Shootin, find an authorized instuctor and some videos and you'll get it.
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That is awesome. I wonder how well he did...
 
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birdie_man

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Really? I've never heard of Moe Norman having anything to do with TGM, other than someone saying he said something like...."Oh Homer Kelly- the Golfing Machine Guy. He has it all figured out."
 
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