Torque Free Clubs?

[cwdlaw223]

Torque free putters exist (ex. Axis 1 putter - Edel coming out with one this summer possibly).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0CVyjctPvg

Why not torque free clubs? Would be interesting to see if torque free clubs would significantly reduce RoC to make timing the face more controllable.

 

[Frans@France]

only if you really like pain you would like to hit a complete torque free club!

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

only if you really like pain you would like to hit a complete torque free club!

Well said; i would imagine that with significant clubhead speed combined with significant off center hits you could easily injure something couldn't you? Probably no broken bones but strains/tears i could see.

 

[Virtuoso]

guys, the Axis putter is just an exercise of balancing shaft axis against head cg. It has nothing to do with shaft resistance to twisting.....I'm sure it twists with the best ones.

 

[Brian Manzella]

guys, the Axis putter is just an exercise of balancing shaft axis against head cg. It has nothing to do with shaft resistance to twisting.....I'm sure it twists with the best ones.

Virtuoso,


I have always respected your opinion.

Where do come down on this silly idea that the golfer's release will change what the club does on a given impact?

 

[cwdlaw223]

Well said; i would imagine that with significant clubhead speed combined with significant off center hits you could easily injure something couldn't you? Probably no broken bones but strains/tears i could see.

Hugh? Static torque free is what I should have said instead of dynamic torque free. I'm sure if I hit a ball with the Axis 1 putter at full speed there would be torque. However, that putter is torque free at setup while other putters are not. Imagine the same thing with clubs.

Just a thought about the same concept.

 

[Virtuoso]

Virtuoso,


I have always respected your opinion.

Where do come down on this silly idea that the golfer's release will change what the club does on a given impact?

Hey Brian,

My opinion (helped along the way with guys a lot smarter than me) is that, in regards to what the hands CAN do, the party is over a little ways before impact.

PS, you can call me Nick. I named myself Virtuoso as a way of making fun of all of us internet "experts."

 

[Virtuoso]

Hugh? Static torque free is what I should have said instead of dynamic torque free. I'm sure if I hit a ball with the Axis 1 putter at full speed there would be torque. However, that putter is torque free at setup while other putters are not. Imagine the same thing with clubs.

Just a thought about the same concept.

Even if you built a driver with the head cg on the shaft axis, you still have to rotate the club. How does a zero shaft/cg offset tell you where square at impact is?

 

[Billy McKinney]

None other than Nunchuk shafts. You wouldn't want a baseball bat to twist and wobble through Impact, why would you want a golf club to do it?
I used another shaft for 2 weeks and was just shocked at how much shaft noise there is.

 

[cwdlaw223]

Even if you built a driver with the head cg on the shaft axis, you still have to rotate the club. How does a zero shaft/cg offset tell you where square at impact is?

But is the static torque free shaft easier to "time" given the fact that regular clubs want to open unless a torque is applied? I don't know the answer and I'm not sure anyone has ever built clubs like the Axis 1 putter to hit.

I know and want to rotate, just a function of how much "more" would it need to be rotated? I'm sure the USGA would outlaw such a club if it did allow golfers to time their shots better. Not sure if it would.

 

[Frans@France]

None other than Nunchuk shafts.

torque : 3.5degree

 

[spktho]

None other than Nunchuk shafts. You wouldn't want a baseball bat to twist and wobble through Impact, why would you want a golf club to do it?
I used another shaft for 2 weeks and was just shocked at how much shaft noise there is.

Billy, does this mean you liked the Nunchuck shafts?

 

[Billy McKinney]

Though the measurable torque is 3.5, they don't operate that way at all. And yes, I like them in all the woods and hybrids..especially the driver. They're a bit different so give them a chance with at least 10 balls before you make a judgment.