Tour Stop Weekend Clinic Review

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INTRO AND OVERVIEW

Along with four other golfers, I spent this weekend at the Long Island Tour Stop Clinic hosted by Brian Manzella and Michael Jacobs. It's a two-day clinic featuring many hours of instruction from both pros on full swing, driver, short game, putting, and a full 18 hole playing lesson. It's a ridiculously good value for $399.00. I'll provide a review of each aspect of the school below, but I think the two most important reasons that the event was so great are simply reflective of the amazing instructors.

The first reason is that the school is geared entirely toward a player's long-term development. It's not typical clinic band-aids designed to get a player doing something a little better that day. Instead, the focus is entirely on the premise of helping the player understand what he or she is doing wrong and why, so that he or she can take that knowledge home and use it to continue to improve. The second reason, which is probably the most unique in golf instruction, is how much these guys genuinely love teaching and care about their students.

The best way to illustrate these is to give a personal example. I have been serious about golf for about 2 years. In that time, I've had a metric ton of bad instruction. In my first lesson with Michael Jacobs, he worked incredibly hard to undo the canon of misinformation theretofore ensuring that all of my efforts to improve were for naught. Since that time, I've occasionally struggled with a very ugly swing flaw in which I'd suddenly be unable to make consistent contact and would literally lose 2.5 clubs of power on even "good" shots. It turns out that flaw is major-- dropping the club way underplane and coming in from about 10* inside. As I learned when this issue decided to come out all weekend, this is (for me) a ridiculously hard flaw to undo, but Brian and Michael would not quit. We covered full swing on day one, and I just couldn't fix it no matter how hard they tried to help me. I left discouraged and generally feeling like golf is becoming a waste of my efforts. I am naturally very good at many things, but golf is not one of them. That may be what I love about it, but on some occasions it just gets to be too much.

The next day, while doing short game instruction, Brian emphasized how great I was doing at the areas of the game that are my strengths. Instead of the guy who just couldn't get it, I was the example of the class. Moments later, Michael pulled me aside to explain how my solid pitch swing could fix my full swing. We worked on it for a good while, until it was time for the class to move on to bunker instruction. There, Brian pulled me aside and told me with all seriousness, "I dreamed last night of drills to help you." He pulled me aside to work on them, where he really pumped me up by claiming that I was the first student ever to do the hurdle drill (apparently from his dreams) on the first try, and that I'd be talked about for the next 99 years for that. It was especially great when he told me that David Toms almost killed David Duval the first time Brian showed him the same drill on the range at a tour event!

Both Brian and Michael continued to help and encourage me throughout the subsequent playing lesson, and about 13 holes in I finally started to get it. The best thing about this really tough situation was Brian and Michael's attitude. They never for a second sounded like it wasn't an absolute certainty that I'd figure it out, and it was just a matter of time until I decided they were right and did it. Throughout it, they were funny, witty and just incredibly great to be around. They are not playing characters in their videos, folks, it's the real deal.

If this hasn't convinced you to figure out a way to get to one of these events asap, below is a review of each aspect of the school. As you'll see, not only is there something for everyone, there is a fantastic amount of instruction crammed into two days.

Day One: Full Swing Analysis

At the outset, Brian and Michael look at everyone's swing on Trackman. The class listens as a group as each students video and Trackman numbers are analyzed, and the pros agree on the necessary changes. The enthusiasm and knowledge underpinning this discussion is just awesome, and it's really inspiring to hear how simple they think it will be.

After the analysis, the class heads to the range. There, each student gets significant one on one time with each pro. When you have two instructors as good as Brian and Michael, the instruction is quite complementary and compatible. It was absolutely amazing to see the difference in some of the students' games in just a couple of quick hours.

During the instruction, Michael had his personal trainer drop by. He spent some time with me working on diet, and then showed the entire class various stretches and resistance exercises for golf.

From there, the class moved to the driver. After explaining the differences between the full swing we've been working on and the driver swing, the instructors again reviewed each player's swing on Trackman and worked one on one with each student for a tremendous amount of time. Again, we saw some absolutely incredible improvement from some students in only a couple of hours. It's amazing the difference truly world class observational and instructional skills can make.

Day Two: Short Game and Playing Lesson

On the second day, the focus shifted to the short game. Brian gave the class a demonstration and explanation of chipping and pitching technique. From there, the students practiced the techniques for a solid hour with both pros providing constant feedback and assistance. It's almost indescribable the amount of one on one attention a really great instructor like Brian or Michael can provide when working with 2 or 3 students at once.

From there, Brian explained and demonstrated the correct technique for a basic bunker shot and a variety of different lies and pin positions. Again, the class broke up and practiced the skills while receiving constant feedback and instruction from the pros. At all times during this practice, both pros made absolutely sure to spend plenty of time with each student. As you'd expect with world-class golf instructors, the lessons were individually tailored to each student's needs. Yet, whenever Brian or Michael noticed a common fault or truly important point, they made sure to tell the entire group.

After bunker play, the instruction moved to the putting green. Brian and Michael teamed up to teach proper putting technique, including setup, grip and stroke. Again, each student received significant one on one time with Brian and Michael. Another point worth noting is that, whenever Brian or Michael noticed an equipment issue, such as driver or putter fit, they pointed out the problem and grabbed a demo club for the student to try.

After discussing technique, Michael provided an absolutely incredible clinic on green reading. The stuff he taught I have never seen in print. He is developing a system that will do for players who struggle with green reading what Confessions of Former Flipped did for, well, flippers, and the class got a ten minute lesson in it that was absolutely amazing. I know it works too, because there is no bigger pressure than when Brian tells you to read a must-make putt for him, which he asked me to do on several occasions later in the day.

From there, we played a full 18 holes of golf in two groups, with Brian and Michael switching groups at the turn. Both Brian and Michael watched and provided feedback on literally every shot hit by every one of us. They made suggestions concerning swing technique, course management, setup, and preshot routine. For example, Brian explained to me that I shouldn't back off my practice swing to line up my shot. Instead, it was much better for me to step right into the shot after a good practice swing. The change made an immediate difference. The pros also took the playing lesson to give us instruction on playing difficult lies and specialty shots. For example, Brian taught me how to blast the ball from the greenside rough like one would while playing a bunker shot.

Beyond the instruction, it was just incredibly fun. Brian was exactly the person you'd expect, providing his ceaseless, hilarious, rapid-fire, stream-of-consciousness musings on all things golf. I'd travel anywhere to get the quality of instruction only he can provide. Michael is simply awesome. He is smart, interesting and unflappable. I can't wait to be able to tell people I knew him in 2010 when the rest of the world figures out what Brian and many of us already know about MJ.

Throughout the weekend, and particularly during the playing lesson, all of the students were extremely friendly and encouraged one another unabashedly. We cheered great shots, offered advice and encouragement, and generally got along great. There was never any pressure and the students represented a very wide variety of ability levels.

At the end of the day, Brian and Michael recorded a video for each student, providing a complete review of his or her individual needs in each area of the game we had worked on over the weekend. They suggested drills and practice schedules, and no one left without a complete understanding of what to work on to continue to improve. I am quite certain we all left extremely exhausted.

I spent so much time writing this wall of text because I feel it's the least I can do given the hard work Brian and Michael put into this weekend for only $399 per student. I can't stress enough what an amazing experience it was. Find a way to go, and I guarantee you won't regret it.
 
Mike,
I get HLS2k6 now....Doh!
It was alot of fun and I couldn't agree with you more. watching you on day one and playing those last 5 holes with you was proof positive on the value to improvment ratio that a student can get from this school.
keep hitting it,
Ric
 
Lesson pricing strategy

I had a great two hours with Brian in Las Vegas. Cost $400 and I have never regretted it. And even though my money was well spent I still am slightly annoyed at the difference the teaching hours that the Long Island people received for the same money.

And $399 for two days, five people with two top instructors does not seem to make economic sense when each of the instructors could make $200 an hour teaching one student.

I am missing something. Can someone tell me what?

Drew
 
Drew,
I flew from Florida to NY, did the school and 2 hours with Brian (i have done 6 hours with Bmanz and at least that with Michael). It is all a great value. Private instruction is the best way to go, but MJ and Bmanz want to teach all who want it and if they can tailor a program that has affordabiity to it and more power to build their brand then there is no downside.
From a business stand point profit is profit. $1000 for 2 days each when there is no out of pocket is a nice take and then Brian can pull another $1000 or so for a day of "tour Stops", it's a lucrative weekend. If you only try to maximize your profits you end up with high average tickets but very few tickets, and a company or brand that stagnates.
IMHO,
Ric
 

ZAP

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Great review. Thanks for taking the time to post it. I have a lesson scheduled with Brian in two weeks. It will be my first official lesson. Now I am really looking forward to it.
 
Hey everyone...my name is Doug and this is my first post here, although I've been visiting the forums for a while now. I too was at the Long Island clinic this weekend and was getting ready to essentially type exactly what was already said!

I have been playing for about 3 years now, and like many people, was completely confused as to what actually applied to my own swing and how I should effectively practice. Bottom line is that after two days with Brian and Michael I know almost exactly what I need to work on, and what it feels like to me to do it correctly.

As Mike and Ric said, the value is absolutely incredible. $399 for 2 days of instruction AND playing 18 holes? You can't beat that. I should also note that while we all know Brian and Michael are great instructors, they are equally great guys and super easy to talk to. They have an amazing way of describing things to each student so that they actually understand what it is they need to adjust.

Mike did a good job outlining what takes place over the two days..for me, the most important part was definitely the swing analysis. Within 30 minutes Michael had changed my grip and Brian had given me a new back swing thought and posture that felt completely different than what I would have ever assumed was "correct". After seeing how the contact and ball flight was I believed them, and this is something I can take with me to the range while I make it second nature.

The short game portion was outstanding as well. With all the variations on chipping and pitching technique out there, they clearly illustrated WHY we should do things a certain way, and how to make adjustments based on lie, stance etc.

I was a bit nervous going into this because golf is still a relatively new pursuit for me and I didn't know what type of environment I was going into...but everyone else in the class couldn't have been nicer, and it was really a memorable experience all around.

One more thing..

To me, one of the very coolest things was playing the 18 holes on Sunday. Not so much to see how I played, but to get a chance to watch Brian and Michael to see how they do things on the course. Let me just say I was beyond impressed.

Outside of perfect contact on every stroke, Brian had one shot in particular from under a tree that ran up about 180 yards, up a hill and nestled about 6 feet from the pin. Michael on the other hand ate up a 550 yard par 5 like it was childs play and sunk a 10 foot eagle putt. Seeing what experienced players are capable of opened my eyes for what is possible on the course.

In conclusion

Best 400 bucks I have ever spent, I will without question be attending every time they do this camp in Long Island again, and I would absolutely recommend this to ANYONE who is interested in learning about their own game, making vast improvements, and meeting some great people.

Thanks again
 
" There, Brian pulled me aside and told me with all seriousness, "I dreamed last night of drills to help you." He pulled me aside to work on them, where he really pumped me up by claiming that I was the first student ever to do the hurdle drill (apparently from his dreams) on the first try, and that I'd be talked about for the next 99 years for that. It was especially great when he told me that David Toms almost killed David Duval the first time Brian showed him the same drill on the range at a tour event! "

This is Priceless! Dream Drill Weaver Brian! - I shared 2 mornings with Brian in Las Vegas, the school in NY sounds like a great 2 days.
 

Brian Manzella

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What it is worth, what did it take to produce, vs Brand Building

I had a great two hours with Brian in Las Vegas. Cost $400 and I have never regretted it. And even though my money was well spent I still am slightly annoyed at the difference the teaching hours that the Long Island people received for the same money.

And $399 for two days, five people with two top instructors does not seem to make economic sense when each of the instructors could make $200 an hour teaching one student.

I am missing something. Can someone tell me what?

Drew

In my honest opinion, my lessons are worth about $200 an hour, at home, on a 70° day, when I give the three to four hours of them that I would like to.

That is taking in to account every detail that goes into it, and me vs. the field of competitors.

But, at home, at English Turn, I charge $150.

Why?

Because, of several reasons, mostly that New Orleans folks don't have too much money, and I HAVE TO charge English Turn members $100 an hour.

Another factor in the $150 price is that I have been very successful, and 100% booked on the road for a couple of years now at $200.

The $50 an hour premium is because I flew to you, and you save on the travel.

The schools I do with Mike Jacobs and Damon Lucas are priced as they are because we don't do much advertising, and we want the school to fill up fast and easy. We are busy guys.

We get to spend two days working hand in hand, and this way, get to keep up on each other's teaching.

The school with Damon was $50 more than the one with Mike because of increased greens and cart fees cost.

I'd say that the schools are worth about $750, and maybe one day we'll charge that, but the price is what it is because it works.

$9.99 for "Confessions of a Former Flipper," "Soft Draw," and "Never Hook Again"??

Sure they are worth more, but they sell like hotcakes at that price.

At the end of the day, I would make MORE MONEY if I just ate up the New Orleans market and stay my rear end home. But who would go out and build my brand for me?

I started this by telling everyone on the "net I could out teach the famous teachers. Folks came, and now I do a dozen or more stops a year, booked solid everywhere.

The Brian Manzella Brand is growing, and I am the gardener.

Got it?
 

Brian Manzella

Administrator
Thanks for the kind words....

Thanks to all the folks in the LI school for all the kind words.

We aim to help you play your best. And have some fun doing it.
 

Yes I did Brian. Brand building is important. I, like most of the others here, want you to be as successful as you deserve and getting your reputation and name out there is crucial. See my comment as honest student feedback. I was not looking for a free lesson, a refund or any of that nonsense. I got extraordinary value for my money and my post-lesson post describing your skill and commitment still stands.

If anything my problem is envy at not being able to spend two days under the eye of two great golf instructors. I will keep my eyes open for future two day clinics. Even at $750 it would be worth it.

Drew
 
I was also at the Long Island Tour Stop. As Doug, Mike, and Ric mentioned, the TS is an incredible value. I won't bore readers with info already posted, but add my observations. IMHO for all but elite golfers the TS has an added value from a private lesson. Watching Brian and Mike dissect various swings gives valuable insight into how I can/should be looking at my swing, and what key items to look for. The other benefit is especially for those of us in less than ideal shape. I know that after an hour of hitting balls, swing fatigue begins to set in. The format provides for far less stress on creaky joints. The only suggestion I would make is that you bring at least a couple of sleeves of the ball you play for the Trackman driver analysis. Brian, you may now enter an honorary MD to your GSED title. The grip change you made did more relieve my ECU agony (and it was agony Saturday) than cortisone and Lidocaine patches. I practiced for almost two hours yesterday and provided I made good contact, was almost pain-free.

Day Two was equally enlightening. I overslept(did not get a wake-up call) and Brian called me not to bitch but concerned. In 10 minutes he gave me a refresher course that made a difference. The playing lesson was the real surprise for me. For those of you wondering how to take your range game to the course, this is the answer. Brian and Mike pointed out subtle issues that would never have been seen on the range. They also pointed out things everyone was doing right, another opportunity where the group lesson was a benefit, as it frequently provided me with some suggestions for my own game. Mike, the observations you made about my alignment explain an awful lot of the troubles I have experienced.

I was a bundle of nerves on the first tee, but by the second hole felt like I was playing with friends. Brian and Mike are first rate people as well as the elite in golf instruction. The ultimate review of any school is the results. I went to the range yesterday for a couple of hours. Within 30 minutes with some assistance from my Casio it was awesome. If I had been smart enough to bring extra batteries I could have posted some video, but let's just say the balls said it all. I honestly do not recall hitting the ball this well. Thank you very much Brian and Mike. I also want to think the other guys at the TS, it was great working with you and a special thanks to the State Trooper who let me off on the way home.

In conclusion, I can state unequivocally that if you want to play better golf, get to a Tour Stop or at least a Manzella instructor. The value for services rendered is outstanding. Manzella anecdotes alone are worth a portion of the tuition. I have been kicked out of many baseball and hockey games, both as a player and manager/coach. Brian, I am still laughing at how you managed to be thrown out of an adult basketball LEAGUE. :eek:
 
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What a Great Time!

I wish I could have posted my review sooner but I left for Mexico the day after the Golf School. It was a tough compromise with the wife, who allowed my to attend the Golf School on our one-year anniversary
:)

The others who attended have already done a wonderful job reviewing and everything they said is 100 percent true.

Personally, I went into the school with the intention on building a solid foundation for a golf game. As a new golfer I have struggled with many aspects of the game. As Brian would say, my game was the equivalent of "not being able to play dead in a war movie." I knew attending this school was the best chance I had getting started in the right direction.

The first work I did was with Mike on my full swing. Within 15 minutes he had me not only swining straight but I develped a complete understanding of exactly why my swing was going bad. I then proceeded to the range and hit about a dozen balls until Brian called me over to work with him. He was able to take the progress I made with Mike and build on it. I've heard of him giving students "the business" but it really is amazing how he puts you into precise positions which allow you to replicate them on the very next swing!

The second day was just as fun and even though I continued to struggle with my short game, Brian and Mike worked hard with me and soon enough I was hitting it better. The putting instruction also helped tremendously. I'd never been shown how to read a green before.

The playing lesson was not only another great instructional experience, but it was a display of some great golf by Brian and Mike. Just as Doug described above, I was also witness to the amazing pin-seeking stinger Brian hit. He said it was in the top 10 shots of his life! I also was there for the eagle Mike made look effortless. It was fun to share the experience with the other guys who attended. They were all really cool guys who provided some well needed enouragement.

If any of you ever consider working with either of these two, I would not hesitate for one second. As many have stated before me and more will after, they are not only top notch instructors but also really genuine and down-to-earth guys. I cannot wait to get to work on my swing and post some before and after videos!

Shawn
 
I wish I could have posted my review sooner but I left for Mexico the day after the Golf School. It was a tough compromise with the wife, who allowed my to attend the Golf School on our one-year anniversary
:)

Shawn



Next year, perhaps Brian and Mike can have you do a short presentation on how the hell you accomplished that one, or was the trip to Mexico the quid pro quo? :D
 
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