Trackman Driver Numbers

[Plumloco99]

Was able to hit on Trackman yesterday, if you would have asked me before I hit one ball I would have been certain that my driver swing produced very good inside out numbers as well as a positive angle of attack. As you can see by the date below it didn't, whats even more disappointing then my left ball after left ball were the face angle numbers.

My first question why the closed face? Second what do you think of the resst of the numbers.

FYI the second Driver was open 1.5 degrees.

Driver1 Driver2
Club Speed 101 103
Attack Angle (.8) .5
Club Path (5.3) (4.5)
Vert Swing Plane 53.3 50.8
Horz Swing Plane (5.9) (4.1)
Spin Loft 12.8 13.7
Face Angle (5.1) (4.2)
Ball Speed 148.8 150.6
Smash Factor 1.48 1.47
Vert Angle 10.9 12.2
Horz Angle (5.1) (4.3)
Spin Rate 1794 3072
Spin Axis (6.7) .80
Max Height 17.9 29.3
Carry 225.2 242.2
Side (22.3) (15.8)
Flight Time 4.88 6.36
Landing Angle 24.2 37.2
Length 271.2 269.6
Side (27.5) (17.5)

 

[mgranato]

From a fitting POV I have a couple thoughts, but a few questions first. What loft were the two clubs, what playing length, and what shafts? Are these averages or "best ball" with both?

 

[Plumloco99]

From a fitting POV I have a couple thoughts, but a few questions first. What loft were the two clubs, what playing length, and what shafts? Are these averages or "best ball" with both?

Averages of about 20 balls each driver. Driver 1 9.5, Driver 2 10.5, length was 46 and 45.25, first was a Stiff, second was X-stiff.

 

[Brian Manzella]

what did the shots look like?

 

[Plumloco99]

what did the shots look like?

The really bad were just wicked hooks, the good and not so bad were pulled, mixed in with pull with a slight hooking at the end.

 

[Brian Manzella]

The Path would be better if you hit up on it more.

As far as the face goes, I have to take a look. Got video?

 

[Richie3Jack]

Looks like your classic 'over the top snap hook' swing. NHA 2.0?



3JACK

 

[Plumloco99]

The Path would be better if you hit up on it more.

As far as the face goes, I have to take a look. Got video?

Thought I had video, but camera wasn't working, I will try to get more. In the case of hitting up what are good numbers, also what are good numbers for the path?

 

[Plumloco99]

Looks like your classic 'over the top snap hook' swing. NHA 2.0?



3JACK

Could this swing produce more pulls than snap hooks?

 

[mgranato]

Very tough to dial in with such a large sample average because a couple of those numbers would seem to suggest a couple outliers are in the sample. I would really like to see your numbers with a 44-44.5" club. It is very common to see out-to-in paths with the longer drivers, especially with swings of 100ish mph and less. It also appears that you're adding some loft to the head with your hands (which may also account for some of the closed face). Assuming that the 10.5 was a true 10.5, I would not start you in anything lower lofted, but I would try you with a softer flex, a shorter club, and experiment with a couple different bend profiles.

Strictly from an equipment POV, with your swing speed, 245 of carry is not that far off for distance. However, I do think you do have some room for a better fitting driver based on these numbers. Do you have access to the data of one or two of your best shots with each club?

 

[Kevin Shields]

Was able to hit on Trackman yesterday, if you would have asked me before I hit one ball I would have been certain that my driver swing produced very good inside out numbers as well as a positive angle of attack. As you can see by the date below it didn't, whats even more disappointing then my left ball after left ball were the face angle numbers.

My first question why the closed face? Second what do you think of the resst of the numbers.

FYI the second Driver was open 1.5 degrees.

Driver1 Driver2
Club Speed 101 103
Attack Angle (.8) .5
Club Path (5.3) (4.5)
Vert Swing Plane 53.3 50.8
Horz Swing Plane (5.9) (4.1)
Spin Loft 12.8 13.7
Face Angle (5.1) (4.2)
Ball Speed 148.8 150.6
Smash Factor 1.48 1.47
Vert Angle 10.9 12.2
Horz Angle (5.1) (4.3)
Spin Rate 1794 3072
Spin Axis (6.7) .80
Max Height 17.9 29.3
Carry 225.2 242.2
Side (22.3) (15.8)
Flight Time 4.88 6.36
Landing Angle 24.2 37.2
Length 271.2 269.6
Side (27.5) (17.5)

Im assuming your a lefty?

 

[Plumloco99]

Im assuming your a lefty?

I am a righty. Am I understanding the numbers correctly and assuming the negative means outside in and closed face?

 

[dannyc]

Could this swing produce more pulls than snap hooks?

yeah, from what i see (hsp -4, cp -4, clubface -4) looks like straight pull.
were the hooks you hit not toe hooks?

 

[Plumloco99]

yeah, from what i see (hsp -4, cp -4, clubface -4) looks like straight pull.
were the hooks you hit not toe hooks?

Impact tape showed that the majority of hits were towards the toe, off center by 2-3 dimples.

 

[Richie3Jack]

Could this swing produce more pulls than snap hooks?

Yes. Because if you get the face less closed and more towards square, you'll hit pulls, pull fades, pull slices.





3JACK

 

[Kevin Shields]

yeah, from what i see (hsp -4, cp -4, clubface -4) looks like straight pull.
were the hooks you hit not toe hooks?

Where is everyone seeing the (-) negatives. I dont see any minus or negative signs. Is my screen defective? I see into out and fade spin axis with balls finishing right of the target.

 

[dannyc]

Where is everyone seeing the (-) negatives. I dont see any minus or negative signs. Is my screen defective? I see into out and fade spin axis with balls finishing right of the target.

i think the numbers in parentheses are negatives

 

[Plumloco99]

i think the numbers in parentheses are negatives

Sorry about that, dannyc is correct, the parentheses represent negatives

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Stop playing tricks on kevin lol

 

[Kevin Shields]

Lol, man, my head was spinning. Im thinking this guy is a lefty hitting over the top hooks and everyone else was on a different page.