Transition speed.

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Just how slow is the transition from backstroke to downstroke? Looks like the pros whip the club back and down very quickly. Today at the range, I was getting good results from my long irons by slowing down the transion, allowing my body to move first before firing my hands and arms in a hands controlled pivot. Felt almost like I was pausing. DOn't think TGM menitons this, but mike Hebron does state in his video that the transition is the slowest part of the swing.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Not sure if this helps but the slowest part of my swing is at the top of my backswing with my shoulders turned fully i let my arms drop into the slot and then i pivot forward and into the ball. If i don't let them drop i come over the top and pull hooks result
 

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Tom Tomasello, GSED (may he rest in peace) always told me:1) if your hands are at or below shoulder height, you fire your right arm and left hip simultaneously, but 2) if your hands go above shoulder height, the release must be seqential, with the arms going FIRST ( give them a 'running head start), then the body does its thing. Allowing the left hip to go first from #2 causes OTT, according to Sir Thomas. BTW, Tom was one of the best ball strikers I ever saw, and could hit or swing, and use any hinge action from any ball position.
 
Tom Tomasello, GSED (may he rest in peace) always told me:1) if your hands are at or below shoulder height, you fire your right arm and left hip simultaneously, but 2) if your hands go above shoulder height, the release must be seqential, with the arms going FIRST ( give them a 'running head start), then the body does its thing. Allowing the left hip to go first from #2 causes OTT, according to Sir Thomas. BTW, Tom was one of the best ball strikers I ever saw, and could hit or swing, and use any hinge action from any ball position.

This is an oldie but I'm curious. Any arguments to this?
 
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Hogan had his left arm across the shoulder plane and he would not fire his hips and right arm simultaneously from the top. That would nulify his "free ride".

Only Hogan knew what he did, if even he knew, everything else is just someone's opinion of what he did, no problem with that except a lot of people make these statements like they are fact. And that's a fact!:eek:
 
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It's in his book.

And you could say the same thing about Tomasello.

You are right about that and Hogan said to do some things in his book that looked like he did not do, but to him it might feel like he did those things, it's all subjective like a lot of golf analysis, pick your poison or your cure?:D
 
For me I improved greatly when I stopped worrying about speed and worried more about pressure. I use the pressure point of where my right hand connects to the left thumb and use a 'palm heel strike' with my right arm on the downswing. So I want the maximum pressure up on the left thumb at impact. If I do that, the speed follows. If I get too much pressure in the startdown all my speed is in the startdown instead of at impact.



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This is an oldie but I'm curious. Any arguments to this?

I have quite high hands and always make my best strikes by doing the exact opposite, i.e. not allowing my arms to drop (relative to my shoulders)...

I don't think this is anything to do with OTT, which is a shoulder-lunge-before-hips error...
 
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