transporting impact hands

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I love the simplicity of the twistaway- setting my hands in their ideal imact-while still in the backswing. My problem is the preservation of the impact condition. I can slam my hands into the ground, with a lovely thug. Looking at a leaning shaft, face only slightly open, BUT I CAN ONLY DO THIS ON THE GROUND TO THE RIGHT OF MY RIGHT FOOT. I try "catching the drop", but I am programmed from decades of the right arm flip. How can I get this ideal condition of hands from right of my right foot to the left butt cheek of the golf ball?
 

Jim Kobylinski

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You need to learn to use YOUR PIVOT!

Here's what you do to dig it out of the ground ;):

Setup so you're in your "twistaway condition" BUT you are in a snap release sort of position. Wrists 90* right arm tucked in your belly, clubhead slightly inside your hands. Picture any good tour player in that "delay" picture they always like to show.

NOW, without doing anything but simply ROTATING and keeping your tilt, hit a pitch shot. I believe this is a drill similar to what Ron Gring dubbed his "tylenol" drill. Cause it cures a lot lol.

Do the above hitting pitch shots going to the follow through and eventually to putting the club "on the movie screen." When you can do that consistently, take that same feeling to a larger backswing.
 

Brian Manzella

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Well....

I love the simplicity of the twistaway- setting my hands in their ideal imact-while still in the backswing...

...How can I get this ideal condition of hands from right of my right foot to the left butt cheek of the golf ball?

Your RIGHT SHOULDER is too far back at impact.

Your CHEST is TOO CLOSED at impact.

Your TAILBONE is not FAR ENOUGH FORWARD or FAR ENOUGH TOWARD YOUR LEFT HEEL. :cool:
 
Great drill

NOW, without doing anything but simply ROTATING and keeping your tilt, hit a pitch shot. I believe this is a drill similar to what Ron Gring dubbed his "tylenol" drill. Cause it cures a lot lol.

Hey Jim, i've been doing this drill myself lately and working really well in practice (you can check out the pics i posted in the spine angle thread). Any thoughts of how to take this to the course? I've been thinking of taking 1 or 2 clubs more so that i can shorten the swing and concentrate on form rather than distance.

Interested to hear some thoughts
 
Hey Jim, i've been doing this drill myself lately and working really well in practice (you can check out the pics i posted in the spine angle thread). Any thoughts of how to take this to the course? I've been thinking of taking 1 or 2 clubs more so that i can shorten the swing and concentrate on form rather than distance.

Interested to hear some thoughts

any ideas?
 

Jim Kobylinski

Super Moderator
You have to feel the drop of the arms with a catch of the pivot, just like brian describes in Never Hook Again

You have to feel your arms and shoulders drop to that position i'm talking about and then you pivot like mad to the left while keeping your head relatively still.
 
I had the same thing and Brian gave the same answer. One thing you might need to change is the left foot. I have to flare it a wee bit in order to let my pivot go left quick enough. Also stretch out your lateral hip/thigh muscles. After I really got that swing thought working, I was pounding the ball so well, that I got a tendonitis in my lateral left leg. :(
 

Leek

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You have to feel the drop of the arms with a catch of the pivot, just like brian describes in Never Hook Again

You have to feel your arms and shoulders drop to that position i'm talking about and then you pivot like mad to the left while keeping your head relatively still.


Jim, could this be the feel I've been getting where the arms drop, the upper arms "connect" to the chest and then you pivot like crazy?
 
Leek,
Only two things can cause the arms to drop from the top:
The left arm travelling down (sliding down, - hands move towards the midriff) across the chest, or,
The right shoulder dropping (left shoulder goes up) with the left arm strongly connected to the upper left chest...(Right side compression, or axis tilt)..
Conciously dropping arm (across chest) and then pivoting is pretty difficult to time during the 1/3 of a second it takes from the top to impact...
 
I love the simplicity of the twistaway- setting my hands in their ideal imact-while still in the backswing. My problem is the preservation of the impact condition. I can slam my hands into the ground, with a lovely thug. Looking at a leaning shaft, face only slightly open, BUT I CAN ONLY DO THIS ON THE GROUND TO THE RIGHT OF MY RIGHT FOOT. I try "catching the drop", but I am programmed from decades of the right arm flip. How can I get this ideal condition of hands from right of my right foot to the left butt cheek of the golf ball?

You could direct your thrust in a straight line via your right shoulder and arm to your aiming point while you sense a stead pressure in your #3 pressure point (lag pressure) 6-C-2-0.
 

Brian Manzella

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I love the simplicity of the twistaway- setting my hands in their ideal imact-while still in the backswing. My problem is the preservation of the impact condition. I can slam my hands into the ground, with a lovely thug. Looking at a leaning shaft, face only slightly open, BUT I CAN ONLY DO THIS ON THE GROUND TO THE RIGHT OF MY RIGHT FOOT. I try "catching the drop", but I am programmed from decades of the right arm flip. How can I get this ideal condition of hands from right of my right foot to the left butt cheek of the golf ball?

You could direct your thrust in a straight line via your right shoulder and arm to your aiming point while you sense a stead pressure in your #3 pressure point (lag pressure) 6-C-2-0.

Jeff (Pure Ball Striker),

Close your eyes.....Imagine saying your answer to a group of young junior golfers, a adult large group class, or most great players.

GLAZED LOOKS...

Got it?

That's what this site is all about—CLARITY.

Say what you mean, don't get stuck in someone's made up terminology. It means NOTHING to the aforementioned examples of students.

The Golfing Machine gave us a roadmap, not a GPS unit. To get our students to find the "destination," we need to say what THEY NEED to understand.

Nothing else.

If The Golfing Machine was perfection—and is far from that—it still is a bunch of MADE UP TERMS, and CLASSIFICATION LETTERS AND NUMBERS.

Free yourself....​


HERE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE:

Digger,

Find a piece of turf where you can take multiple divots.

Make a swing toward a target and take a divot.

Without moving your stance swing as if to hit a ball 100 yards (yes, a hundred) left of the target, also taking a divot.

Do the same out to "right of Rush Limbaugh."

That's TOWARD where you are swinging. The divot will be back by your right foot.

From the top, you are going to HAVE TO get the clubhead to swing more toward that left spot.

How?

By NOT ALLOWING the hands-arms-and club unit (Homer's "Power Package") to fall from the top so fast before your shoulders can open to the target a bit.

Folks often think that the correct right shoulder movement is so parallel to their stance that the shoulders stay square too long after start down and you wind up over in right field with Roberto Clemente. ;)
 
I must give the real world References

Brian,
I see where you are going with this I got it. CLARITY! What maybe clear to me at the time "my perception" may not be clear to others.
I also, am here to learn and become a better communicater.
Thanks,


Jeff,

Close your eyes.....Imagine saying your answer to a group of young junior golfers, a adult large group class, or most great players.

Got it?

That's what this site is all about, CLARITY.

Say what you mean, don't get stuck in someone's made up terminology. It means NOTHING to the aforementioned examples of students.

The Golfing Machine gave us a roadmap, not a GPS unit. To get our studnets to find the "destination," we need to say what THEY NEED to understand.

Nothing else.

If The Golfing Machine was perfection—and is far from that—it still is a bunch of MADE UP TERMS, and CLASSIFICATION LETTERS AND NUMBERS.

Free yourself....​


HERE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE:

Digger,

Find a piece of turf where you can take multiple divots.

Make a swing toward a target and take a divot.

Without moving your stance swing as if to hit a ball 100 yards (yes, a hundred) left of the target, also taking a divot.

Do the same out to "right of Rush Limbaugh."

That's TOWARD where you are swinging. The divot will be back by your right foot.

From the top, you are going to HAVE TO get the clubhead to swing more toward that left spot.

How?

By NOT ALLOWING the hands-arms-and club unit (Homer's "Power Package") to fall from the top so fast before your shoulders can open to the target a bit.

Folks often think that the correct right shoulder movement is so parallel to their stance that the shoulders stay square too long after start down and you wind up over in right field with Roberto Clemente. ;)
 
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