Turned shoulder plane concept

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the turned shoulder plane concept. As I understand it this the position the right shoulder reaches at the top of the backswing and should then travel down on the downswing along with the butt of the club, at least until the hands get back to belt level.

On the computer screen where should I draw the line up from in order to monitor this, hosel of the club, middle of the ball and which part of the right shoulder should it go through at address?

Look forward to your thoughts.

 

[birdie_man]

TSP:

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1905

It's the yellow line.

 

[vjcapron]

TSP:

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1905

It's the yellow line.

The link on this site is:

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4932

 

[Brian Manzella]

Boy CAN I draw good Turned Shoulder plane angles!!

 

[birdie_man]

The link on this site is:

http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4932

Ah yes that's right....I had er bookmarked......I'll change that over.

 

[James Marshall (Hogan1953)]

Thanks and another question

Thanks very much for the help and links to the audio, which cleared up a few things. Looking at the photos of Toms' and VJ's swings do you think there is any advantage to getting onto the turned shoulder plane early in the backswing as Toms does or getting there as VJ does via a double shift later on in the backswing?

 

[Brian Manzella]

Hogan,

It really makes no difference to the club and ball, but FADErs whould be better served by the Turned Shoulder Backswing (and downswing) and DRAWers whould like the Double-Shift.

 

[rundmc]

Hogan,

It really makes no difference to the club and ball, but FADErs whould be better served by the Turned Shoulder Backswing (and downswing) and DRAWers whould like the Double-Shift.

Why boss?

 

[tongzilla]

Celebration

Boy CAN I draw good Turned Shoulder plane angles!!

Well done Brian, you win the Best Turned Shoulder Plane Angle Drawing Award 2006!



What are some of the pitfalls when drawing the TSP?

 

[tongzilla]

Hogan,

It really makes no difference to the club and ball, but FADErs whould be better served by the Turned Shoulder Backswing (and downswing) and DRAWers whould like the Double-Shift.

The reason you say that is you tend to trace an OPEN plane line with TSP downstroke, and a CLOSED plane line with an Elbow Plane downstroke.

 

[Brian Manzella]

Well done Brian, you win the Best Turned Shoulder Plane Angle Drawing Award 2006!



What are some of the pitfalls when drawing the TSP?

A few guys are drawing the line WAY too low.