If I waggle a little twistaway, where clubface stays vertical to its plane, then swivel through impact, then my next shot is played from Alabama instead of my native Georgia, and I swore I would never go back to Alabama after divorcing my cousin. Help. Do I weaken the grip to Brian's definition of neutral? Back off the twist some, or swivel less or later or both or all the above?
twistaway + swivel=Alabama
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Would Alabama be left? So you want to hit more towards West Virginia?
If it's left. You may want to check how much the of the heel of you left hand is on the club. My AI ECox tweeked this on my grip and I stopped hooking it. There's a post on this forum or Chuck's that explains the logic. It goes something like this . . .
You should only have a little #3 angle to roll thru impact. The #3 angle is established at fix. So put the club just a sidgeon under the heel of the left hand. Too much means large #3 angle so your and the release must be earlier to accomodate a longer roll through impact. And that would mean lower clubhead speed. So grip more towards the cup.
This is paraphrasing from Yoda. I printed this out, didn't print out the thread title.
E showed me how if you have too much heel pad on the grip when you look down on your hands at address you don't see the whole cap of the grip. But when you get it right you can see the whole cap.
Not only does this help with your #3 angle, but it will also help if you have the clubface "shut" at the top.
Hope this will help. I'm no AI, but this is what has helped me.
By the way . . . How does your cousin look.
Jim Kobylinski
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Digger...if you read the article you are now learning a flat left wrist so you are having a clubface problem (hinging). You are probably arching the wrist instead of just flat and when combined with a full swivel you will tend to hit draws.
The problem comes when you don't hit the INSIDE BACK CORNER of the ball then you get the pulls and the hooks. However if you are hitting the inside back corner your grip is probably too strong and the face is shut at the top of the swing.
A great way to fix this is to go to IMPACT FIX and adjust your grip so that your clubFACE is open about 3* and hitting the inside back corner of the ball. Remember that your flat left wrist should be facing out to right field as well.
Once you establish that grip...go back to mid-body hands and to the twist-away. This might feel AWEFULLLLLY weak but you should start seeing an almost perfect straight ball.
hope i helped
The problem comes when you don't hit the INSIDE BACK CORNER of the ball then you get the pulls and the hooks. However if you are hitting the inside back corner your grip is probably too strong and the face is shut at the top of the swing.
A great way to fix this is to go to IMPACT FIX and adjust your grip so that your clubFACE is open about 3* and hitting the inside back corner of the ball. Remember that your flat left wrist should be facing out to right field as well.
Once you establish that grip...go back to mid-body hands and to the twist-away. This might feel AWEFULLLLLY weak but you should start seeing an almost perfect straight ball.
hope i helped
Brian Manzella
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Good job, Jim.
The "Twist-Away" is kinda like the stuff you foam into a flat tire.
You wil get to the "Fillin' Station" and there you can change your tire (stop the backswing with your left thumb inder the grip).
The "Twist-Away" is kinda like the stuff you foam into a flat tire.
You wil get to the "Fillin' Station" and there you can change your tire (stop the backswing with your left thumb inder the grip).
Good post jim 0068. I've been working on this myself after a temporary bad experience with right forearm fanning. I think the twist away will gain in popularity as this simplifies the golf swing, as I believe it reduces potential rythym and timing problems that happen to all of us from time to time.
The rest of your post covers everything you need to know-excellent!!
The rest of your post covers everything you need to know-excellent!!
Jim Kobylinski
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The whole point of the twist away is to just counter act the natural opening of the clubface during the backswing and to achieve a flat left wrist.
This way there is less closing on the way down and flattening on the way down which means your swing WILL NOT DEPEND on any "conscious" timing.
With the swing Brian taught me, as long as i setup correctly and just let my swing happen (with no forceful timing or hand movements) i'm almost guarranteed a great ballflight 90% of the time. Sometimes i'll stand too tall and not be down enough and i'll thin the shot
OR
Since i have a snap release sometimes i won't uncock and i'll thin the shot.
Other than that....it's just setup and swing
This way there is less closing on the way down and flattening on the way down which means your swing WILL NOT DEPEND on any "conscious" timing.
With the swing Brian taught me, as long as i setup correctly and just let my swing happen (with no forceful timing or hand movements) i'm almost guarranteed a great ballflight 90% of the time. Sometimes i'll stand too tall and not be down enough and i'll thin the shot
OR
Since i have a snap release sometimes i won't uncock and i'll thin the shot.
Other than that....it's just setup and swing
RunDMC
I definitely have all my pad of my left hand on top of the club and suffer constantly with the lefts. I have a neutral grip leaning towards weak to compensate for this but only marginally successful. Driving me crazy and no one has been able to help me with it.
If I get you right, you are indicating the left hand grip should be more in the palm, not at the cup, but favoring the cup in the hand. Is that correct?
I definitely have all my pad of my left hand on top of the club and suffer constantly with the lefts. I have a neutral grip leaning towards weak to compensate for this but only marginally successful. Driving me crazy and no one has been able to help me with it.
If I get you right, you are indicating the left hand grip should be more in the palm, not at the cup, but favoring the cup in the hand. Is that correct?
Brian Manzella
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lolol!!
Galanga - work on your extensor action, combine that with twist away and you will find a very simple and powerful procedure - let extensor action be the 'limit' of twist away - if you have, and keep, proper extensor action, it is near impossible to twist too much, the extensor action counter acts the twist and you will set your 'wedges' very solidly, assuming a proper grip. You won't have to 'do' anything during your downswing with your hands.
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